Opinions Needed Please..........

SoapMakingForum

Help Support SoapMakingForum:

RDak

Well-Known Member
Joined
Dec 1, 2008
Messages
151
Reaction score
100
Location
Michigan
Ok, I do the double boiler HP method (not really pertinent to this question but just to let you know).

I am making an "expensive oil" soap using up babassu and laurel fruit oil for about 48 bars of soap (each batch is 48 ounces of oil).

Recipe:

Babassu - 10oz

Laurel Fruit Oil - 8oz

Shortening (Crisco type) - 14oz

Castor - 4oz

Virgin Olive Oil - 12oz

5 percent discount and am thinking of using milk for half of the water.

Stupid recipe?
 

Obsidian

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jun 18, 2013
Messages
10,325
Reaction score
8,155
Location
Idaho, USA
If you are using expensive ingredients, you want to replace the crisco, it can contribute to DOS. Could you use some palm or lard in its place?
 

Dahila

Well-Known Member
Joined
Dec 29, 2013
Messages
2,622
Reaction score
1,840
Location
Canada, Ontario
I would not use shortening, use lard instead. Cleansing number is 19 I would find it very drying. It seems to be on the soft side soap.
INS - A measure of the physical qualities of the soap based on the SAP and iodine value. This value was introduced by Dr. Robert S. McDaniel in his wonderful book "Essentially Soap". The exact origin of the value is unclear but INS is derived from Iodine value and the SAP value; hence INS - "Iodine ’n SAP" If the value is not in "Essentially Soap", it is estimated by subtracting the Iodine Value from the KOH SAP. It is used to predict the physical characteristics of the soap bar - the ideal being 160. Experience has proven a range of about 136 - 170 will gennerally be acceptable. yours is 126. Have you use Soapcalc?
 

RDak

Well-Known Member
Joined
Dec 1, 2008
Messages
151
Reaction score
100
Location
Michigan
Thanks everyone........lard it is.

Yes, I used soap calc and the INS is 136 when I did it.
 

lenarenee

Supporting Member
Joined
Jan 14, 2014
Messages
3,703
Reaction score
3,314
Maybe try a small test batch before you commit large quantities of those expensive oils to a large batch.
 

Dahila

Well-Known Member
Joined
Dec 29, 2013
Messages
2,622
Reaction score
1,840
Location
Canada, Ontario
Thanks everyone........lard it is.

Yes, I used soap calc and the INS is 136 when I did it.
So did I, with original post was crisco. Lard is much better for the conditioning and it is better soap in general. I would use CO instead of expensive babbasu which I use for my body lotions and deo's . :))
 

RDak

Well-Known Member
Joined
Dec 1, 2008
Messages
151
Reaction score
100
Location
Michigan
So did I, with original post was crisco. Lard is much better for the conditioning and it is better soap in general. I would use CO instead of expensive babbasu which I use for my body lotions and deo's . :))
Thanks for the info.

It is expensive...........but what the heck!! :-D
 

The Efficacious Gentleman

Lifetime Supporter
Joined
Nov 19, 2013
Messages
8,993
Reaction score
9,095
Location
Austria
Is it for someone who can't use coconut oil? Would be interesting to see if there is a demonstrable difference between the two, apart from any allergy issues
 

RDak

Well-Known Member
Joined
Dec 1, 2008
Messages
151
Reaction score
100
Location
Michigan
Is it for someone who can't use coconut oil? Would be interesting to see if there is a demonstrable difference between the two, apart from any allergy issues
No, it's just something I am making on a whim.

I doubt there will be much difference..........I'll try and remember to post the results in a few weeks after it is cured but I doubt the babassu will make too much a difference.

Just something I want to do.

ETA: Same for the laurel fruit oil. Just using it on a whim.
 

pamielynn

Well-Known Member
Joined
Apr 6, 2013
Messages
1,171
Reaction score
763
Location
Texas
Just a side note - babassu and and PKO feel much less drying to me in soap than coconut. It could all be in my mind, though :)
 

RDak

Well-Known Member
Joined
Dec 1, 2008
Messages
151
Reaction score
100
Location
Michigan
Update: Made the soap..........turned out good. (Needs to cure a bit more but I tried a bar and it is nice stuff IMHO.)

A good amount of lather and the laurel berry oil gave it an evergreen type of scent. I didn't add any fragrance oils.

I didn't notice much difference between babassu oil and coconut oil.

Overall the laurel berry is good stuff and I like it. Too bad it is so expensive.

Next question if all of you don't mind.

I'm thinking of getting some rosin powder and adding 1TBL per pound of oil to increase lather. Just an experiment, the soap I make lathers pretty good now but I just want to try it but have no idea if 1TBL of powdered rosin is ok, etc.

Is this stupid?

Thanks for any opinions.
 

Latest posts

Top