I've just ordered some Foaming Apple from Lotion Crafter ( cost more for shipping USA - NZ than it did for the product - lol). Looking forward to experimenting with that when it comes. Feedback from two more testers is that the bar is good! My friend (who has frizzy hair) said her hair was a little frizzy after using but she didn't use a conditioner so I expect that wouldn't have helped. My hair tends towards frizzy too, but I still use a commercial conditioner ( until I start making conditioner bars!). Anyway - she said she would happily come back for more once this bar is gone. My mum has tested it and LOVES it! She reckons it made her hair thicker!? Not sure about that, but she and I have similar hair types, except that hers has thinned a bit with age.