What SF were you thinking?
Coconut oil can be very drying, it is called "cleansing" in the lye calculators but that's really a misnomer for "oil stripping." Most people stick to 20% or lower coconut or use a high SF to offset the drying. As you gain more experience you'll learn what your skin prefers.
Some people say that canola contributes to DOS but I've never had an issue. I've also never used 60% in a recipe. I think canola tends to be in the 20-30% of my recipes, personal preference.
Do you have other oils available? This recipe looks ok in terms of a learning recipe but if you have anything else to use we can help you balance everything a bit better
Hey John! Do you have access to lard or tallow? They're great hard oils that you can use to make up the bulk of your recipe for a very nice bar of soap.
Do you know if the sunflower seed oil is high-oleic? It should say so on the label.
Oils are composed of different percentages of fatty acids - "linoleic" and "linolenic" fatty acids have a short shelf life and are prone to rancidity, so it's usually best practice to avoid those. The big offenders are hemp seed oil, canola oil, soybean oil, non-HO safflower oil and non-HO sunflower oil.
You could try the following "Bastille" recipe:
70% high-oleic sunflower seed oil
30% coconut oil
7% superfat
40% lye concentration
This type of bar will require a long cure before it hardens up nicely, similar to the long cure required for Castille soap. Dissolving a bit of salt to your water before adding your lye will help make a harder bar. One teaspoon per pound of oil would work nicely.
You could also try doing a pure coconut oil salt bar.
100% coconut oil
50% pickling/sea salt (according to oil weight)
20% superfat
30% lye concentration
In this recipe, you would prepare your water and lye as usual and add to your melted coconut oil. Then at trace, add your salt and mix with a spatula. This recipe will harden extremely quickly, so it's best to make your bars in single cavity molds as opposed to a loaf or slab mold, as salt bars can be difficult to cut.
You can learn more about salt bars by searching the forum.
And my lye calculator recommendation is Soapee.com. Good luck!
Thanks for your reply
If I use canola oil when rancidity occurs?
If rancidity occurs , what effects will it cause in soap?(does it have any effect on cleansing or any negative effects on the skin?)
would you please explain a little bit more about rancidity?
Thanks
I am thinking about 5% superfat.
I have access to sunflower seed oil , soybean oil , canola oil , coconut oil and milk fat.please tell me a recipe with these oils
(I don't have access to any kind of palm oil)
Thanks
I would not use soybean oil, either. Do you have a problem with using lard or tallow? Lard is readily available in the US, it is cheap, and makes lovely soap. Or if you have a Walmart nearby, buy the Great Value Shortening. It has tallow and palm. My favorite recipe have both lard and GV shortening, as well as olive, coconut, and castor oil. All are available at Walmart if you have access to one.
Thanks for your timeJohn44, if all you have access to is coconut oil, sunflower oil, canola & soybean oil, it would probably be a good idea to find a source for Rosemary Oleoresin to help prevent DOS in your soaps.
See these links about DOS and how to prevent it: http://cavemanchemistry.com/DreadedOrangeSpot-Dunn.pdf
More about using ROE: http://www.soapmakingforum.com/showthread.php?t=58835&highlight=rosemary+oleoresin
https://classicbells.com/soap/ROE.html
With all soft oils (except the CO) the Iodine values and the INS values are not going to fall within the suggested ranges very much, but I wouldn't worry about that so much.
For more information about INS & other values given in soapcalc see these links:
https://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/cold-process-soap/ins-numbers-for-soapmaking/
http://www.soapmakingforum.com/showthread.php?t=36717
http://soapcalc.net/info/soapqualities.asp
You may find this interesting regarding the results of a survey of soapers and what fatty acid profiles were most popular:
http://www.modernsoapmaking.com/the-most-popular-fatty-acid-profiles-in-soapmaking/
As to your choices of oils, at least the plain canola oil is higher in oleic and lower in linoleic, so it seems a better choice than soy or plain sunflower unless you can get the High Oleic version of Sunflower Oil. If you have access to the high oleic version of Sunflower, that would probably be your best soft oil to choose, as with a long cure it makes a nice hard soap.
Also, if you say where you are, perhaps others on the forum might know better where to refer you for other supplies that you have yet found. Sometimes someone in your country has found a good source for a soaping oil and don't know to tell you about it because we don't know where you are.
Thank you Mandy for this recipe . What was the specifications of soap produced
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