There are some places online where you can purchase Cocoa pods but you will pay more than if you just purchase a true block of ABS. No matter what you use it will not be true African Black Soap. Each village uses recipes handed down for generations. I am sorry I just think some types should not be duplicated, it is their soap, method, recipes etc and I think it should stay theirs. You want ABS purchase some that has come in from Ghana. Sorry, somethings I am a purest with and I have not read about using shea bark. Maybe shea grows in the US but I have not heard of it and since cacao grows in a small area of the US it can be hard to come by. Cacao has to grow in hot humid areas.