Maythorn said:
I would like to know if melt and pour is more ecomonical than cp with shipping and weight & all.
That depends...usually, yes, if purchased in bulk. But it all depends on what you add to it. And when compared to CP, what oils and additives were used to make the CP. It's cheaper for both to buy ingredients in bulk. M&P is USUALLY less time consuming (unless you doing the elaborate artwork type of M&P), so that figured in with the lower cost bulk base, and yes, it is usually cheaper.
Quality vs. CP? Depends on preference. I prefer CP over M&P. For me, M&P is more about looks, and CP is more about skin benefit. Either can be super creative. Some people notice a huge difference, and some don't. Some want lots of thick creamy bubbles, and some want light lather.
Do what YOU like to do. There's a market out there for everyone. I'm assuming you don't plan to sell anytime soon, so take your time to figure out which works best, economically and quality-wise, for yourself.
Maythorn said:
I tried it and I didn't think I was very good at it because there were so many bubbles. Cp has taught me to stir, stir, stir.
That stir, stir, stirring in M&P creates lots of tiny bubbles...stir gently, enough to incorporate without over doing it and creating foam on top. After you pour, spray it liberally with alcohol and that will take care of most of your bubbles.
Maythorn said:
And I only ever used michael's and a sample of brambleberry's that i tried to cut and it was very flinty after it hardened. Seemed like indiviidual molds were the only way to go. I would like to pour and cut it to look just like my other rectangle bars.
I have used a variety of M&P and been able to use a loaf mold, then cut into bars. Michael's M&P base is the same as a lot of economy bases that are for function and not skin benefit - just read the ingredients and you'll see a lot with the same. I think people put their nose up at it because it's so "commercial" and from a "hobby store".
IMO, I like WSP's Detergent Free Triple Butter Base (Sodium Cocoate, Propylene Glycol , Sodium Stearate, Glycerin, Water, Sorbitol, Butyrospermum Parkii (Shea) Seed Butter, Mangifera Indica (Mango) Seed Butter, Theobroma Cacao (Cocoa) Seed Butter. ).
I also use Brambleberry's Shea Butter M&P Base (Coconut Oil, Palm Oil, Safflower Oil, Glycerin (kosher, of vegetable origin), Shea Butter (refined naturally crushed), Purified Water, Sodium Hydroxide (saponifying agent), Sorbitol (moisturizer), Sorbitan oleate (emulsifier), Soy bean protein (conditioner), Titanium Dioxide (mineral whitener used in opaque soaps)