CPOP with milk soaps?

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    Soapman Ryan

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    Would like to try two things a milk soap and CPOP. Has anyone had troubles with a milk soap using the CPOP method? I was wanting to use coconut milk for the milk, adding it at trace before putting it in the oven.
     
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    I use coconut milk in almost every batch but I have never done CPOP. Hopefully someone else who has more experience can help. I can't imagine it being a problem as long as it doesnt get too hot. Then again, i usually dont allow my milk soaps to gel so... :eh:
     
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    I have seen a lot of recommendations to NOT gel milk soaps because the sugars in the milk will have a tendency toward burning/overheating your soap. You might consider just wrapping your soap up in towels to let it keep its own heat in. I did that to my OMH soap to make sure it gelled. It BARELY gelled, but I soap low at room temperature, and I ended up wrapping hot towels around it and insulating it all in a blanket to make sure it gelled. Normally they say not to because if your soap gets too hot you could have a mess on your hands.
     
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    I typically do not have a problem doing CPOP with goat milk soaps. The only time my soap overheated was an OMH, and it was probably the honey + not fully frozen goat milk when I added the lye that did it.
     
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    The one time I did HPOP soap, I added some cream at the end of the cook. I have never attempted CPOP soap.
     
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    I've done CPOP milk soaps, but I do it a little differently than most, I'm sure. After making my soap, I pop it in the freezer for about 2 hours & then put it in the oven. I haven't had any issues that way, even with honey & milk in the same recipe.
     
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    When you oven process with milk soaps, does it discolor to a tan color or does it stay creamy?
     
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    Genny, by putting the milk soap in the freezer prior to the oven, does this stop the gel process? What does the oven do to the soap since it's now a frozen loaf?
     
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    It doesn't stop the gel process. It just stops it from overheating. During the time that it's in the freezer, the soap still gets pretty warm. When I put it in the oven, it's not quite frozen yet. The heat from preheating the oven & the oven light do still force the soap to gel.

    If you have a smaller batch (1 pound loaf or so), then you probably wouldn't want to leave it in the freezer for 2 hours, since then it might be likely to become completely frozen.
     
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    Nope. Stays whatever color I colored it to.

    Wish I had a freezer with room for my log mold, but alas I don't. Otherwise I'd probably do it the same way as Genny.
     
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    Hmmm, I'm going to have to try it and see what happens. I always thought that the whole idea was to keep the soap as cool as possible to prevent the sugars in the milk from discoloring the soap. I would definitely prefer to gel some soaps.
     
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    This is true, I soap at room temp too and i have to insulate my beer and milk soaps that I want gelled. I wrap them or put them in a heat pad ( or set on the radiator!) when they look done (i have a see through mold) then i remove.
     

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