Something that TopOfMurrayHill said stuck in my mind, then recently someone mentioned not wanting to soap with animal fat and it was mentioned again in a post and it got the wheels in my head slowly chugging along with something and it has led me to the following conclusion:
Depending on the grounds of the veganism, there may be no such thing as a vegan or non-vegan soap.
Or rather, as all oils are made up of fatty acids in certain proportions and these fatty acids are saponified (super fat to one side for now) then you can make the same recipe using raw fatty acids to make the same profile as lard.
Lard has 1 myristic, 28 palmitic, 13 stearic, 46 oleic, and 6 linoleic.
Palm has 1 myristic, 44 palmitic, 5 stearic, 39 oleic, and 10 linoleic.
By that same token, if I made a 0% SF soap with lard, I am left with saponifed fatty acids. There is no actual animal product left in the soap. If a vegan does not want to use an animal product, they could use that soap.
This follows the old argument of soap being certified organic or not because, while the NaOH is NOT organic, it is not technically present in the finished product as it reacts with the fats to make the soap. By that reasoning, there is no lard in a 0% SF lard soap.
So if I HP a 0% SF soap with 20% CO and 80% lard, then add in an SF of CO, I technically have no lard anywhere, as it is all saponified fatty acids. So for some vegans, there is no animal product in that soap.
Technically..........................
Depending on the grounds of the veganism, there may be no such thing as a vegan or non-vegan soap.
Or rather, as all oils are made up of fatty acids in certain proportions and these fatty acids are saponified (super fat to one side for now) then you can make the same recipe using raw fatty acids to make the same profile as lard.
Lard has 1 myristic, 28 palmitic, 13 stearic, 46 oleic, and 6 linoleic.
Palm has 1 myristic, 44 palmitic, 5 stearic, 39 oleic, and 10 linoleic.
By that same token, if I made a 0% SF soap with lard, I am left with saponifed fatty acids. There is no actual animal product left in the soap. If a vegan does not want to use an animal product, they could use that soap.
This follows the old argument of soap being certified organic or not because, while the NaOH is NOT organic, it is not technically present in the finished product as it reacts with the fats to make the soap. By that reasoning, there is no lard in a 0% SF lard soap.
So if I HP a 0% SF soap with 20% CO and 80% lard, then add in an SF of CO, I technically have no lard anywhere, as it is all saponified fatty acids. So for some vegans, there is no animal product in that soap.
Technically..........................