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Does anyone know which site has the chart of oils and the substitutes that can be used? I was using it and should have bookmarked or printed...for what ever reason I am not finding it now. Lots of other info on many sites... but that chart was very simple and easy to reference. Not sure why my searches are not bringing it back up! I am trying to alter recipes from various sites to avoid palm, tallow or lard. They already have coconut and some have shea already...so I am trying to figure out what to add and where to alter percentages......so that chart would be helpful! Will bookmark it next time I see it. Thanks!
 
I can only suggest that you google soap making properties of oils, etc. If you can remember a specific piece of verbage, perhaps look that up? Here's a quick one off the top of my head:

Palm/tallow/lard (hard bar)
olive/sunflower/rice bran (gentle lather)
coconut / palm kernel / babassu (lather)
sweet almond / avocado / apricot kernel (conditioning) - this list can go on and on, there are lots of oils that are very nice at 5-10% in soap.
 
I can only suggest that you google soap making properties of oils, etc. If you can remember a specific piece of verbage, perhaps look that up? Here's a quick one off the top of my head:

Palm/tallow/lard (hard bar)
olive/sunflower/rice bran (gentle lather)
coconut / palm kernel / babassu (lather)
sweet almond / avocado / apricot kernel (conditioning) - this list can go on and on, there are lots of oils that are very nice at 5-10% in soap.


Thank you! So many options...that one chart was awesome but I still can't find it. ..oh well!
 
Remember you need to run any new recipe through a soap calculator, you cannot just substitute. You need to just design a new recipe

Yes, I was trying to make a shopping list and wanted to use that list...I have several calculators and articles on how to do that. It was just handy to put that in a binder for reference. Thanks
 
Maybe this?
https://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-...ow-to-substitute-oil-in-cold-process-recipes/

But I think you may be complicating/over thinking this. You don't need ALL THE THINGS. I've been making soap for almost 20 years and trust me, I understand the desire to have ALL THE THINGS. but you can just try a FEW of the things and work from there.

Yes you are correct, I need to keep it simple. I guess I want to make a variety of soaps to test! Yes that article is one I have referred to and read over a few times, and have to print I think. That whole site is awesome actually.
Thank you.
 
Maybe this?
https://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-...ow-to-substitute-oil-in-cold-process-recipes/

But I think you may be complicating/over thinking this. You don't need ALL THE THINGS. I've been making soap for almost 20 years and trust me, I understand the desire to have ALL THE THINGS. but you can just try a FEW of the things and work from there.
With the restrictions the OP has chosen, it's necessarily going to be more complicated. It's just like you can make great bread with only water, flour and yeast, but if you need to make gluten-free bread that's even decent you're going to need to experiment more and be more complicated.

Similarly you can make darn good soap with 60% lard or tallow, 20% coconut and 20% olive or safflower. But vegan and no palm is going to be tough. (I'm not sure it can be done to be completely honest and IMO.)
 
Do you have a Vitamin Shoppe in your area? They have a variety of oils for reasonable prices. Not as good as if you order online, but good enough for testing purposes. I think their prices are better than Whole Foods.
 
With the restrictions the OP has chosen, it's necessarily going to be more complicated. It's just like you can make great bread with only water, flour and yeast, but if you need to make gluten-free bread that's even decent you're going to need to experiment more and be more complicated.

Similarly you can make darn good soap with 60% lard or tallow, 20% coconut and 20% olive or safflower. But vegan and no palm is going to be tough. (I'm not sure it can be done to be completely honest and IMO.)

Good point. But to use your GF bread example - you could easily spend hundreds of dollars to buy ingredients to make bunches of different recipes of GF bread. But it's probably better to start with one recipe you can make with ingredients you can find near you and see how that goes, before ordering ALL THE THINGS. I've made several different recipes of low-carb bread and I've spent a ridiculous amount of $ for ingredients I will never use again. My dad's diabetic and for a while he was obsessed with the idea of low-carb bread that was just as good as carb bread.

And to extend your metaphor further - what do you want to do with your GF bread? Make a sandwich? You'll need a bread that's fairly sturdy. Eat with a bowl of soup? You can have a softer, more tender bread. Crunchy crust? Texture? Sweet or savory? Depending on what you want, totally different set of ingredients and baking methods.

My best low-carb bread effort ended up being the cheapest.
Cheesy Bean Bread

1 15 oz. can canelli beans or other white bean (drained & rinsed)
4 oz cheese (I love mozzarella or a sharp cheddar)
4 large eggs
1 tsp. baking powder
2Tbsp melted butter (oil is okay, but butter is better)
1/2 teaspoon seasoned salt
Herbs (optional; any you like)

Preheat oven to 350.

Prepare an 8x8-baking pan by spraying it with Pam.

Use food processor to blend all ingredients EXCEPT baking soda to a fine consistency. Add baking soda and give it a quick blast to mix in the baking soda. Pour and bake.

My dad loves this with jalapeños.
 
Good point. But to use your GF bread example - you could easily spend hundreds of dollars to buy ingredients to make bunches of different recipes of GF bread. But it's probably better to start with one recipe you can make with ingredients you can find near you and see how that goes, before ordering ALL THE THINGS. I've made several different recipes of low-carb bread and I've spent a ridiculous amount of $ for ingredients I will never use again. .....
The five pounds of coconut flour in my cabinet agree with your point. :D
 
Good point. But to use your GF bread example - you could easily spend hundreds of dollars to buy ingredients to make bunches of different recipes of GF bread. But it's probably better to start with one recipe you can make with ingredients you can find near you and see how that goes, before ordering ALL THE THINGS. I've made several different recipes of low-carb bread and I've spent a ridiculous amount of $ for ingredients I will never use again. My dad's diabetic and for a while he was obsessed with the idea of low-carb bread that was just as good as carb bread.

And to extend your metaphor further - what do you want to do with your GF bread? Make a sandwich? You'll need a bread that's fairly sturdy. Eat with a bowl of soup? You can have a softer, more tender bread. Crunchy crust? Texture? Sweet or savory? Depending on what you want, totally different set of ingredients and baking methods.

My best low-carb bread effort ended up being the cheapest.
Cheesy Bean Bread

1 15 oz. can canelli beans or other white bean (drained & rinsed)
4 oz cheese (I love mozzarella or a sharp cheddar)
4 large eggs
1 tsp. baking powder
2Tbsp melted butter (oil is okay, but butter is better)
1/2 teaspoon seasoned salt
Herbs (optional; any you like)

Preheat oven to 350.

Prepare an 8x8-baking pan by spraying it with Pam.

Use food processor to blend all ingredients EXCEPT baking soda to a fine consistency. Add baking soda and give it a quick blast to mix in the baking soda. Pour and bake.

My dad loves this with jalapeños.

LOL re low carb bread! We eat LC HF ( high fat) as a means to counter boarderline diabetes and we dont have any bread like items. Our plan says no beans but I don't agree and I am going to try that recipe of yours! ..but back to soap! I was hoping for a little more longevity as the calculators I tried said it was below the range. It is a lavender soap and I am thinking about adding some oatmeal just because. I do tend to go overboard but that has always been my way....so I will be making charcoal - lavender soap and then trying a bunch of others..in 1 lb batches.
I just retired from teaching for 35 years. My best students, the most successful were the ones who challenged me, themselves and all around them..they were the ones asking tons of questions, bringing up every possible situation, and in general always wanting to do more. I taught a range of students from grade K- through graduation....in Special Education Classes. We did huge community projects that the regular ed teachers said were too hard , too involved. My students knew no limits and challenged me not to have any either. So it is with soapmaking I think. Lots to learn, question, research and experiment with!
 
What type of oatmeal? I would recommend putting your rolled oats in a food processor, or even cooking them and then putting them in the food processor. You want very small, fine bits in your soap.

I was going to food process it fine and only add a little. I read about it somewhere or saw it on youtube...I made notes about it. I think it helps to extend the FO scent? There was mention of using cornstarch as an alternative, I will have to check back in my notes.
 
Does anyone know which site has the chart of oils and the substitutes that can be used? I was using it and should have bookmarked or printed...for what ever reason I am not finding it now. Lots of other info on many sites... but that chart was very simple and easy to reference. Not sure why my searches are not bringing it back up! I am trying to alter recipes from various sites to avoid palm, tallow or lard. They already have coconut and some have shea already...so I am trying to figure out what to add and where to alter percentages......so that chart would be helpful! Will bookmark it next time I see it. Thanks!

If you haven't disabled your browser from saving your browsing history, you should be able to find it with a little patience just by reviewing your browsing history. If you know the approximate date or week, and a possible name of the site, it's easier to find it.


Edit to add some links.

These are possibilities, but of course I cannot know:

http://www.lovinsoap.com/oils-chart/

http://www.naturesgardencandles.com/mas_assets/theme/ngc/pdf/soapoils.pdf

https://thenerdyfarmwife.com/how-to-make-any-soap-recipe-palm-free/
 
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