Soap keeps drying forever

Soapmaking Forum

Help Support Soapmaking Forum:

Soap Samurai

New Member
Joined
Sep 22, 2022
Messages
2
Reaction score
1
Location
Europe
Hello!

It has been almost 5 months since we did our first two batches. We are struggling somewhat for space, so had no ideal place to store the soap. In the end we put it in the building's basement which unfortunately isn't particularly insulated or dry (we really had nowhere else to put it).

Next to both batches I placed a dehumidifier which has been doing quite well, but here we are 5 months later and the weight is still going down week after week.
I was told that a soap is done curing when the weight stops changing, so we left it down there. Today I checked and batch 1 has reduced by 0.11 grams since last week, and batch 2 by 0.06, roughly. Is a small change like this an indicator that the curing is basically finished, or should we leave it there for longer?

Thanks in advance!
 
Joined
Dec 10, 2019
Messages
957
Reaction score
836
Location
Colorado
I was told that a soap is done curing when the weight stops changing, so we left it down there. Today I checked and batch 1 has reduced by 0.11 grams since last week, and batch 2 by 0.06, roughly. Is a small change like this an indicator that the curing is basically finished, or should we leave it there for longer?
I have personally never heard that soap is cured when it stops changing weight although others here may chime in with a different answer. Lots of smart people on here. :)

I've always been told that soap is cured in 4 weeks for most, but there are some that require a great deal longer. Salt soaps for instance need a full year.

I live in a dry climate and my soaps will continue to lose water until there is almost nothing left. I've learned to put my soaps into cardboard boxes or ventilated plastic bins to prevent continued dehydration.
 

dibbles

Supporting Member
Supporting Member
Joined
May 6, 2015
Messages
9,032
Reaction score
12,339
Location
Minnesota
At five months, your soap is surely cured, unless it is something like a 100% olive oil soap. Most soaps are done curing after 4-8 weeks, and the tiny changes in weight you are seeing now aren't an indication it isn't ready to use. It should actually be quite nice!
 
Joined
Dec 31, 2022
Messages
20
Reaction score
21
Location
North Carolina
I too have not determined cure time by weight unless there’s an obvious problem going on. I’ve only been soaping about a year but I use 5 weeks as a general guidance for regular CP. Perhaps there was a problem with the amount of water in the recipe? Can you share the recipe?
 

Soap Samurai

New Member
Joined
Sep 22, 2022
Messages
2
Reaction score
1
Location
Europe
Thanks for the quick replies, everyone! I can't remember exactly where, but multiple sources said that once the weight stops changing, the soap is fully cured. I was also a bit skeptical of this since traces of water can keep evaporating for a long long time. In that case I think we will start using these batches from today :)

I too have not determined cure time by weight unless there’s an obvious problem going on. I’ve only been soaping about a year but I use 5 weeks as a general guidance for regular CP. Perhaps there was a problem with the amount of water in the recipe? Can you share the recipe?

Here is the recipe we used:
recipe.PNG
 

TheGecko

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jul 22, 2019
Messages
3,683
Reaction score
7,001
Location
Oregon
I was told that a soap is done curing when the weight stops changing, so we left it down there.
Soap never stops losing weight. Unless it is a salt soap or soft oil soap like Castile or Aleppo, soap is considered fully cured after four to six weeks. It is during this time that you will have the most water evaporation, but the soap will continue to lose weight as water continues to evaporate.

I live in the Pacific Northwest of the United States and during the winter it gets really cold and damp with all the rain. I cure in my uninsulated garage, and because of the lower temps and extra moisture in the air, I give my soap an extra two weeks to cure.
 

Zany_in_CO

Saponifier
Joined
Mar 9, 2017
Messages
9,110
Reaction score
10,421
Location
SE Denver CO
(we really had nowhere else to put it).
What about the trunk/boot of your car? I've known soapers who did that but never tried it myself.

Here is the recipe we used:
I ran your recipe through SoapCalc.net. It looks fine. However, "Coconut Oil - All grades except virgin" might be a problem if you used Fractionated Coconut Oil? That would require more NaOH than the normal 76°F Coconut Oil normally used.
 
Joined
Dec 11, 2018
Messages
645
Reaction score
555
Location
Columbia, mo
Hello!

It has been almost 5 months since we did our first two batches. We are struggling somewhat for space, so had no ideal place to store the soap. In the end we put it in the building's basement which unfortunately isn't particularly insulated or dry (we really had nowhere else to put it).

Next to both batches I placed a dehumidifier which has been doing quite well, but here we are 5 months later and the weight is still going down week after week.
I was told that a soap is done curing when the weight stops changing, so we left it down there. Today I checked and batch 1 has reduced by 0.11 grams since last week, and batch 2 by 0.06, roughly. Is a small change like this an indicator that the curing is basically finished, or should we leave it there for longer?

Thanks in advance!
I have never heard such a thing either. Generally four weeks is good; of course for some soaps, like Castile, it may be considerably longer. Soaps will lose weight forever! I have two bars of soap my father made over 50 years ago and they are very very light!
 
Joined
Nov 19, 2013
Messages
9,328
Reaction score
10,008
Location
Austria
I think the miscommunication was really about how much weight loss means your soap is still curing intensively (because a soap never stops curing).

Did you record the weights and dates? I imagine you'd plot a graph very similar to that in DeeAnna's post.

You'll have to find your own Goldilocks range for curing, where you leave it long enough that the performance is good, but not so long that you're getting minimal improvements per week
 
Top