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I know I'm chiming in a little late but I've been using sea water only for the ZNSC soap. My son-in-law brought me a couple gallons that I boiled to sterilize. I've not made it with Zany's faux sea water yet.

I'll be asking him to bring me more the next time they come out to visit, which will be sooner rather than later, I hope.

I did finally get around to making ZNSC with ocean water, but I didn't know that I was supposed to boil and sterilize it😳 is it still good to use??
 

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Here’s my latest batch of ZNSC. I used up the last of some misbehaving (fast to trace) OO, added 10% CO and 5% castor. Not knowing for sure how the OO would behave in this recipe, I started with the batter at 95F. and used 35% lye concentration. I had trace in less then 10 minutes and the loaf went into gel quickly after I put it on a heating pad at high. The spiral soaps and the square one are unscented. The cut bars are scented with a blend of litsea, lavender, clary sage and a tiny bit of vetiver. This batch is not as white as some I’ve made in the past, which I assume is due to the OO rather than the CO or castor. According to the label, the OO is a blend of refined and EVOO. Given what I paid for it, I doubt it has more than a trace of EVOO.

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I just love those spiral molds. Very nice.
 

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Here’s my latest batch of ZNSC. I used up the last of some misbehaving (fast to trace) OO, added 10% CO and 5% castor. Not knowing for sure how the OO would behave in this recipe, I started with the batter at 95F. and used 35% lye concentration. I had trace in less then 10 minutes and the loaf went into gel quickly after I put it on a heating pad at high. The spiral soaps and the square one are unscented. The cut bars are scented with a blend of litsea, lavender, clary sage and a tiny bit of vetiver. This batch is not as white as some I’ve made in the past, which I assume is due to the OO rather than the CO or castor. According to the label, the OO is a blend of refined and EVOO. Given what I paid for it, I doubt it has more than a trace of EVOO.

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So beautiful, natural, smooth and thank you for offering the recipe. Very kind. However, I think your selection of molds had a lot to do with the outcome and that is you and your taste. Just because one has a recipe, doesn't mean that the result will be as beautiful as the 'teacher's'. You really did a good job. Well done.
 
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I did finally get around to making ZNSC with ocean water, but I didn't know that I was supposed to boil and sterilize it😳 is it still good to use??

If you collected the water on an open coast/beach where the circulation is good, it should be fine.

For all practical purposes, lye takes care of bacteria. Water from urbanized areas may also contain pollutants such as boat diesel and whatever the runoff carries in from roads or sewer systems via storm drains. I personally would not use water from a harbor, bay or estuary without sterilizing it and passing it through a carbon filter. I would also stay away from Santa Monica Bay.

... enabler... (which I totally mean as a compliment, as it is such a valued skill on this forum).

You’ve certainly done the same for me on more than one occasion. I’m simply returning the favor. ❤🤣

As a general update: At 14 weeks, I’m happy with the performance of this recipe in my home water. It’s softened but still leans hard, with high TDS. The soap produces large bubbles when I roll it in wet hands for 5 sec. Rubbing wet soap between my hands for 5 sec. produces a reasonable amount of small dense bubbles (foam) that transition into a lotion-like lather if I then rub my hands together for an additional 5 sec after putting the soap down. As is expected for a soap that contains little stearic and palmitic, more rubbing does not lead to the creamy lather that is characteristic of soaps made with lard, tallow, palm or butters. Using my testing approach, the soap does not produce oleic slime. In practice, I almost never get oleic slime from high oleic soap unless I inadvertently leave the bar sitting in a puddle of water.
 
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If you collected the water on an open coast/beach where the circulation is good, it should be fine.

For all practical purposes, lye takes care of bacteria. Water from urbanized areas may also contain pollutants such as boat diesel and whatever the runoff carries in from roads or sewer systems via storm drains. I personally would not use water from a harbor, bay or estuary without sterilizing it and passing it through a carbon filter. I would also stay away from Santa Monica Bay.



You’ve certainly done the same for me on more than one occasion. I’m simply returning the favor. ❤🤣

As a general update: At 14 weeks, I’m happy with the performance of this recipe in my home water. It’s softened but still leans hard, with high TDS. The soap produces large bubbles when I roll it in wet hands for 5 sec. Rubbing wet soap between my hands for 5 sec. produces a reasonable amount of small dense bubbles (foam) that transition into a lotion-like lather if I then rub my hands together for an additional 5 sec after putting the soap down. As is expected for a soap that contains little stearic and palmitic, more rubbing does not lead to the creamy lather that is characteristic of soaps made with lard, tallow, palm or butters. Using my testing approach, the soap does not produce oleic slime. In practice, I almost never get oleic slime from high oleic soap unless I inadvertently leave the bar sitting in a puddle of water.
Thank you that makes sense. I got it from surfers knoll in Ventura, so plenty of circulation there!
 
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Folks are successfully soaping with raw goat's milk, plant extracts, and clay. I can't see how ocean water could be worse than that, hygiene-wise.

I only use distilled water or purified juices not because of hygiene but to avoid unwanted minerals that may cause DOS or otherwise affect the performance of my soap.

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I haven't made it with buttermilk, but I have made it with goat milk. It's the only OO soap I've ever liked, and it is my best friend's favorite soap. I'm guessing the buttermilk would give a similar feel.
 
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I made these in November last year. . ZNSC
( with 15% coconut, 5% castor) , raw goat milk with the salt and baking soda, infused olive oil with calendula, slightly scented with litsea EO. The other is olive oil infused with alkanet, fragranced with lavender EO, other stuff the same as above. Tons of lather ! I can’t compete with these, but I keep trying 😂😂
 

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I made these in November last year. . ZNSC
( with 15% coconut, 5% castor) , raw goat milk with the salt and baking soda, infused olive oil with calendula, slightly scented with litsea EO. The other is olive oil infused with alkanet, fragranced with lavender EO, other stuff the same as above. Tons of lather ! I can’t compete with these, but I keep trying 😂😂
Lovely!!
 
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Wanted to share the batch I made this week, no colorant and no fragrance. I did however make bastille instead of Castile, went with 15% coconut and 5% castor.
I had actually tried this a year ago, but upped the SF to 3%. I’m interested to see the difference no SF makes.
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Wow beautiful soap’ 💫🧼
 

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