Vanilla 20X - OK for soap??

[surf girl]

I posted in the EO forum, but there's not a lot of action over there (except: thanks for your help, digit!).

Has anybody used this (thick, sticky) stuff for CP soap? How???

And if not, what can I use it up in?

I guess I can't eat it...

 

[topcat]

Can't help you surf girl, sorry, but I can keep you company. I have read online that you put the bottle in a warm water bath to melt it before use....not sure how much or even if it will work in CP as far as completely incorporating...? :roll:

Tanya

 

[surf girl]

Well thanks for keeping me company, topcat. I keep anxiously checking back to this thread, hoping someone will know what to do with this stuff.

I put a small plop of it into the microwave to see what would happen. Nada. Tried adding some olive oil and then microwaving it. Nada. Just a blobby ploppy splodge of... vanilla.

Sniff. Sniff. I LOVE vanilla.

 

[ChrissyB]

What is this vanilla stuff you are talking about Surf Girl? Is it vanilla extract that comes in a little jar, quite expensive, smells very strongly of vanilla, kind of a dark jellyish substance with darker dots in it?

 

[topcat]

I found a link describing it on a New Directions website, however it doesn't have any helpful hints on using it :wink:

Good for information though -

http://shop.newdirections.com.au/epages ... /OE100VANI

Tanya

 

[surf girl]

topcat, New Directions is where I ordered it from. Perhaps I should email them for advice. This bit:"Consistency: Thick viscous paste" - THEY ARE NOT KIDDING.

Chrissy, it's kind of like tar. Comes in a typical EO bottle with a dropper. Ha! Who are they kidding. I am just befuddled.

 

[surf girl]

Oh, and I am in no way implying that there is anything wrong with New Directions or the vanilla. I just don't understand the vanilla.

 

[ChrissyB]

is it made specifically for soapmaking?

 

[ChrissyB]

Maybe melt it through some oils, like castor oil or something, and warm it at the same time, then stir through at trace.

 

[TessC]

I'm really interested in seeing the answer to this one, as I bought some vanilla oleoresin from MMS, and want to find out if it's something I can use in soaps or not.

This is their product description of the one I got, and it sounds like it's similar to the OP's vanilla:

http://www.thesage.com/catalog/products ... luble.html

 

[carebear]

did you search the forum over there? i seem to remember a thread or two on it.

ETA: Just took a peek over there. There is at least one thread of frustration over Vanilla including the 20X. The MSDS says it is soluble in water and in alcohol (and mmisible in oils - which means it CANNOT dissolve in oils) http://www.newdirectionsaromatics.com/m ... dmsdsl.htm.

EATA: and yes I believe you CAN eat it if you wish LOL. It's extracted with food grade solvents. So make your own vanilla extract maybe by mixing with alcohol.

 

[surf girl]

How do I melt this sucker, though? After about a total of 60 seconds (in various bursts ranging from 5 to 20 seconds), a pea-sized blob remained a pea-sized blob, even sitting in olive oil. Maybe I'll try a bit in a water bath thing. I'm reluctant to use large amounts in my experimentation because I have just the one wee bottle. (Although, what does it matter if I can't use it anyway? Grrr.

Woops - posted before I refreshed my page, didn't see your reply, carebear. Well, that explains the olive oil failure. Perhaps I'll try some vodka. And if it doesn't work, I'll drink it.

Thanks to you, too, TessV!

 

[topcat]

Perhaps I'll try some vodka. And if it doesn't work, I'll drink it.

Mmmmm.....vanilla vodka - sounds yummy!

 

[Lindy]

Uhmmmm - don't forget I'll be there in April - 8)