LushishLux
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Has anyone been following this movement? I am really excited about it. I hope something comes of all the protesting.
khermsen said:Protests are an important arm of democracy.
We the taxpayer bailed out Chrysler not once, but twice.
LushishLux said:Has anyone been following this movement? I am really excited about it. I hope something comes of all the protesting.
carebear said:LushishLux said:Has anyone been following this movement? I am really excited about it. I hope something comes of all the protesting.
What do you hope comes of it all? I really am trying to understand this, not trying to be obtuse.
LushishLux said:taking jobs away from people here who need them survive is wrong and should be stopped.
dagmar88 said:LushishLux said:taking jobs away from people here who need them survive is wrong and should be stopped.
How? On a small scale, if I'd have 3 employees and couldn't afford them anymore; would it be better to sack one or to go bankrupt and forced to sack all 3?
LushishLux said:carebear said:LushishLux said:Has anyone been following this movement? I am really excited about it. I hope something comes of all the protesting.
What do you hope comes of it all? I really am trying to understand this, not trying to be obtuse.
I think its wrong that the people we bail out (i say we because I paid for part of it) decide its okay to give them self a bonus with that money and they should be punished. I am not against big business completely. they employee millions of people (im sure its more but thats just a number). Its not the people who are working the same as me. Its the heads of these companys who think its okay to skimp out on their taxes and leave people like us to foot the bill. moving your money over seas so you dont have to pay taxes on it is wrong. taking jobs away from people here who need them survive is wrong and should be stopped. I don't have an action plan to make it all better otherwise I would have run for president by now but, we need help we need to stop this and punish those who are taking advantage of the system. I'm not saying bring down big business at all. I am not against people who make alot of money and still pay their dues. I work my butt off to have the few nice things I own (a car, an apartment, a new tv) and I still pay my fair share of taxes.
carebear said:I'm far far from wealthy, but I like living in a capitalist society - it works.
carebear said:LushishLux said:carebear said:LushishLux said:Has anyone been following this movement? I am really excited about it. I hope something comes of all the protesting.
What do you hope comes of it all? I really am trying to understand this, not trying to be obtuse.
I think its wrong that the people we bail out (i say we because I paid for part of it) decide its okay to give them self a bonus with that money and they should be punished. I am not against big business completely. they employee millions of people (im sure its more but thats just a number). Its not the people who are working the same as me. Its the heads of these companys who think its okay to skimp out on their taxes and leave people like us to foot the bill. moving your money over seas so you dont have to pay taxes on it is wrong. taking jobs away from people here who need them survive is wrong and should be stopped. I don't have an action plan to make it all better otherwise I would have run for president by now but, we need help we need to stop this and punish those who are taking advantage of the system. I'm not saying bring down big business at all. I am not against people who make alot of money and still pay their dues. I work my butt off to have the few nice things I own (a car, an apartment, a new tv) and I still pay my fair share of taxes.
skimp on taxes? they pay way more than we do in taxes for the most part. and most pay what is required of them. what is this fair share? If after paying your taxes you have some money left do you turn to the IRS and say "oh, here's extra for the country!!"? if I make more than you, I generally pay more - but should there be a limit? if people aren't allowed to keep what they earn and instead limits are placed on that - well I'm really not interested in living in a socialist country but I hear there are lots to choose from.
punish those who take advantage? so even if they are following the rules and obeying the law, if it works to their advantage they should be punished?
you lost me on the "taking away jobs" - who is doing that? or rather, why are these jobs going away? I missed something here.
in communist countries people all are "equal" (some more equal than others, but whatever) and no one gets to be rich. work ethic suffers, though, and the economy falls apart, besides all the other things wrong with that system of government. in socialist countries everyone pays for everyone and again work ethic suffers along with quality, and people pay over half their income in taxes. but the US is neither, and I personally am good with that. I'm far far from wealthy, but I like living in a capitalist society - it works.
so you'd rather pay much much much more instead? you might, perhaps, but the american people vote with their wallets and guess what, the WAAAAY vast majority go for the lower price.LushishLux said:when companies outsource they nearly always save money, and are able if they want to reduce the prices of their products or keep them much lower than the competition. this hurts the small companies that can't outsource.
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