I'm going to try my hand at a shampoo bar this weekend. I'm going to have the house to myself as my wife is going to be out of town and I plan on pulling out all of the stops and going all in on this shampoo bar. I have gathered all the necessary supplies (I hope!) and purchased a crockpot on sale at my local big box store. I will be hot processing this and it's my 1st time doing a HP soap. As usual I have some questions.
Would using powdered goat milk be a good or bad idea? If a good idea when would I add it? My thought is to dissolve the goat milk powder with a little water held out of the lye solution and add it after the cook. Yes/No? Does GMP offer any benefit in a shampoo bar? I have made one CP GMP soap before and really liked how it turned out. I used 2.5 TBLS of GMP for 2.5 pounds of oils in that. Would this be a good amount in a shampoo bar or should I use less?
I am thinking of using Sodium Lactate in the hope of having a "looser" batter to put in my silicon log mold and achieve a smoother less rustic looking soap. Again, is this an okay additive to use in a shampoo bar or will it negatively affect the final outcome? If it's a "yes" on the SL what is the recommended amount per pound of oil and when to add it? As an FYI I have the liquid SL from Crafters Choice if that makes any difference.
I would also like to add a little honey to this recipe. I tried honey once before in a CP soap, soaped too hot and with the honey it overheated and separated. My thinking is that if I'm doing this HP I should be able to avoid the overheating issue. Again however, is honey a good addition to a shampoo bar and if so, how much per pound of oils and add it when?
Should I use a superfat value in soapcalc? I'm thinking a small one to err on the side of caution since I will be using so many different oils and as always I'm very careful when weighing out my ingredients but I think it would make me feel better. My reason for a small superfat value "built in" to the recipe aside from the cautious aspect is that I'm thinking to add a small percentage of superfat oil at the end of the cook. If my reasoning is correct, what would a good percentage be, both for the built in and also for the after the cook superfat? Or conversely, if I'm adding a superfat oil at the end do I forgo the built in SF? I don't want a lot of excess oils left in the bar as both my wife and I have normal hair that is not to dry and not to oily but I would like some conditioning in the bar. I also would like to know which of the oils in my recipe below would be the suggested oil to use as the SF.
I put the SF at 0% for this recipe thinking I would add 3% percent of a suggested oil at the end of the cook. Please correct me if I'm wrong on this!
I'm also using full water since I want as fluid a batter I can get in the end.
I will be adding a EO blend of .5 ounces per pound of oil (1.25 ounces total) at the end of the cook and before the pour/glop.
RECIPE -
Total - 40 ounces of oil (2.5lbs)
Water as % of Oils - 38%
Superfat - 0%
Water - 15.2 ounces
Lye - 5.44 ounces (154.351gms)
Olive Oil - 30%
Avocado Oil -30%
Palm Oil - 10%
Shea Butter - 10%
Castor Oil - 10%
Coconut Oil 76* - 5%
Sunflower Oil - 5%
The values soapcalc spit out at me;
Quality Range Your Recipe
Hardness 29 - 54 26
Cleansing 12 - 22 3
Conditioning 44 - 69 71
Bubbly 14 - 46 12
Creamy 16 - 48 31
Iodine 41 - 70 78
INS 136 - 165 113
Lauric 2
Myristic 1
Palmitic 16
Stearic 6
Ricinoleic 9
Oleic 48
Linoleic 13
Linolenic 0
Does this recipe even make sense to you more experienced soapers? I know I'm using a lot of different oils and additives and I have up unto this point kept my CP batches simple and straightforward with 3 or 4 oils max. But like I said at the beginning, I'm alone this weekend and feeling adventurous.
Would using powdered goat milk be a good or bad idea? If a good idea when would I add it? My thought is to dissolve the goat milk powder with a little water held out of the lye solution and add it after the cook. Yes/No? Does GMP offer any benefit in a shampoo bar? I have made one CP GMP soap before and really liked how it turned out. I used 2.5 TBLS of GMP for 2.5 pounds of oils in that. Would this be a good amount in a shampoo bar or should I use less?
I am thinking of using Sodium Lactate in the hope of having a "looser" batter to put in my silicon log mold and achieve a smoother less rustic looking soap. Again, is this an okay additive to use in a shampoo bar or will it negatively affect the final outcome? If it's a "yes" on the SL what is the recommended amount per pound of oil and when to add it? As an FYI I have the liquid SL from Crafters Choice if that makes any difference.
I would also like to add a little honey to this recipe. I tried honey once before in a CP soap, soaped too hot and with the honey it overheated and separated. My thinking is that if I'm doing this HP I should be able to avoid the overheating issue. Again however, is honey a good addition to a shampoo bar and if so, how much per pound of oils and add it when?
Should I use a superfat value in soapcalc? I'm thinking a small one to err on the side of caution since I will be using so many different oils and as always I'm very careful when weighing out my ingredients but I think it would make me feel better. My reason for a small superfat value "built in" to the recipe aside from the cautious aspect is that I'm thinking to add a small percentage of superfat oil at the end of the cook. If my reasoning is correct, what would a good percentage be, both for the built in and also for the after the cook superfat? Or conversely, if I'm adding a superfat oil at the end do I forgo the built in SF? I don't want a lot of excess oils left in the bar as both my wife and I have normal hair that is not to dry and not to oily but I would like some conditioning in the bar. I also would like to know which of the oils in my recipe below would be the suggested oil to use as the SF.
I put the SF at 0% for this recipe thinking I would add 3% percent of a suggested oil at the end of the cook. Please correct me if I'm wrong on this!
I'm also using full water since I want as fluid a batter I can get in the end.
I will be adding a EO blend of .5 ounces per pound of oil (1.25 ounces total) at the end of the cook and before the pour/glop.
RECIPE -
Total - 40 ounces of oil (2.5lbs)
Water as % of Oils - 38%
Superfat - 0%
Water - 15.2 ounces
Lye - 5.44 ounces (154.351gms)
Olive Oil - 30%
Avocado Oil -30%
Palm Oil - 10%
Shea Butter - 10%
Castor Oil - 10%
Coconut Oil 76* - 5%
Sunflower Oil - 5%
The values soapcalc spit out at me;
Quality Range Your Recipe
Hardness 29 - 54 26
Cleansing 12 - 22 3
Conditioning 44 - 69 71
Bubbly 14 - 46 12
Creamy 16 - 48 31
Iodine 41 - 70 78
INS 136 - 165 113
Lauric 2
Myristic 1
Palmitic 16
Stearic 6
Ricinoleic 9
Oleic 48
Linoleic 13
Linolenic 0
Does this recipe even make sense to you more experienced soapers? I know I'm using a lot of different oils and additives and I have up unto this point kept my CP batches simple and straightforward with 3 or 4 oils max. But like I said at the beginning, I'm alone this weekend and feeling adventurous.
