Ok quick background no one asked him to be up there in fact my mother in law has been fighting ongoing fight dad stay off the roof. He seems to be doing ok but he's still in hospital 6 broken ribs small punture in his lung and Broken Pelvis. The pelvis worries me almost as much as the lung siituation. He is a smoker all his life so that worries me. At this point I am staying in contact by phone with her. She and father in law are going to lock up the ladders so he can't do this kinda thing anymore.Thank Goodness his girlfriend was there to get help or he would have been there till Donna (m-i-l) got off work at 5 pm. :cry: