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Old 03-18-2017, 12:11 AM   #11
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Much will depend on your formula, but unfortunately, you cannot find out what amount of which oil works best for it until you actually make a batch of it (gosh darn it!) .

For the record, though, apart from a few differences, your formula looks somewhat fairly similar in a sense to LBussy's shaving recipe, which happens to be a very good recipe which is why I felt comfortable telling you to go for it. He sent me a tin of it and my son and hubby loved it, although his has no castor oil in it at all.

For what its worth, I use 20% castor in mine, but my formula is quite different from LBussy's or yours.....or Carolyn's, too, for that matter.


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Old 03-18-2017, 01:26 AM   #12
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All the variations possible are very interesting! I basically tried to follow the 52% Stearic / 48% Coconut with a few of my own variations... I'm sure I will be doing plenty of experimenting with this one. Luckily I have lots of willing testers!


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Czmaha you are generious to share your soap, I am getting ready to do it for my hubby. I have no idea how to bite it, yet. Is the tallow, Kokum and CO the same percentage? eh that is what I am planning to make for over 2 years.
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Well that was quite an adventure.

I melted all my oils and stearic acid in the Crock-Pot on high, then added my warm lye water.

The immediate reaction was a bit of ricing/lumpy mashed potatoes, as I assumed the lye water cooled the stearic acid enough to solidify it a bit.

After some stick blending, only a few minutes, it returned to a beautiful creamy pudding texture with no lumps.

After that it started thickening more and felt more like taffy, leaving long strands behind on my spoon. I figured it was time to zap test and add my superfat, fragrance oil and colour. No zap.

Well I turned my back for literally a second and that batter thickened into old play-doh. I tossed in my SF, FO and colour and hoped for the best. My silicone spatulas couldn't handle it and my spoon barely could so I resorted to double-handed mashing, trying to get that damn colour dispersed in the brick.

I glopped the batter onto a piece of parchment paper, hoping I could knead it. Not really. It just stuck to my gloves and made a mess.

So I just smeared the batter into my containers and called it a day. They're not the prettiest things I've ever made but I'm still looking forward to testing the lather.

So when should I have added my SF/FO/colour? Pudding phase I guess?
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Old 03-18-2017, 07:57 PM   #15
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Another update, in case anyone is curious.

Just tried shaving my pits with it. I don't have a proper shaving brush so I used a makeup brush. But holy cow. That lather is amazing. It's just like what you'd get out of a can of barbasol. Except it leaves my skin much softer and smells a lot better too.

In addition to the recipe I posted, it has these additives (all PPO):

- 1 egg yolk
- 1 tsp Bentonite clay
- 1 tsp sodium lactate
- 1 tbsp sugar

All in all, even though it's quite ugly, I'm very happy with the results.
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The reaction wasn't the SA cooling, it was just that free fatty acids (FFAs) react lightning fast when you add a lye in there. Instant, most of the time - which is why soaps with a lot of SA (which includes a good shaving soap) will have to be made HP and not CP.
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The reaction wasn't the SA cooling, it was just that free fatty acids (FFAs) react lightning fast when you add a lye in there. Instant, most of the time - which is why soaps with a lot of SA (which includes a good shaving soap) will have to be made HP and not CP.
Ah makes sense!
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When I make mine, I pre-melt the Stearic acid alone and keep it at 180F/82C while I'm heating my hard fats in my stainless soaping pot (I don't have a crockpot, so I do the oven method). Once those are melted, I add my liquid oils and glycerin to the pot and bring the temp up to 200F/93C before stirring in my melted stearic. When everything looks smooth, I slowly add in my lye solution and whisk while the pot is still on the heat - just until everything is smoothed out. Then I cover my pot and stick it in the oven set on 180F/82C and cook until zaplessness.

I normally make mine with 80% KOH/20% NaOH, but for what its worth, I've also made batches with 100% KOH, which unlike my mixed lye batches, tends to go through all kinds of weird stages as it is cooking: Fluid to thick paste, then to a melted caramel-like consistency, then back to fluid consistency, etc.. Thankfully, by the time it reaches zaplessness for me, it is back to a fluid consistency and I am able to add my scent in nicely.


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