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Old 06-06-2017, 08:54 PM   #31
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Yep, that's how I see it too. The other party might be willing to escalate, but they might not. At this point, however, their complaint is "all hat, but no cattle."
If anything, I imagine they will send a second letter to my reply with actual witness testimony or some other actual evidence; or a vague allegation that upon information and belief it is prima facie confusingly similar.

I am 99.99% certain that both the following are true: 1) they aren't willing to pay for an actual complaint to be filed & served, and 2) the law firm in question is not willing to stake their bar numbers on filing such a frivolous lawsuit without actual and credible witness testimony.


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Old 06-07-2017, 07:00 PM   #32
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"...if they had cited ... exactly how their ... rights are being violated, I'd actually be worried. But instead, it's just a vague "We're butt hurt and want you to stop" letter...."

Yep, that's how I see it too. The other party might be willing to escalate, but they might not. At this point, however, their complaint is "all hat, but no cattle."
I have never heard the expression "all hat, but no cattle" before. It is delightful. Can you please use it in some sentences so I can use it correctly? I am thinking it means, all show, no substance?


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I have never heard the expression "all hat, but no cattle" before. It is delightful. Can you please use it in some sentences so I can use it correctly? I am thinking it means, all show, no substance?
You nailed it!

A person who wears fancy cowboy boots and expensive cowboy hats and likes to boast and brag, but doesn't have a clue about being a real cowboy, rancher, or farmer.

"That fella over there is all hat and no cattle."
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Old 06-08-2017, 05:14 AM   #34
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I have never heard the expression "all hat, but no cattle" before.
About an hour before DeeAnna posted it, I read about the phrase on a list of "extinct insults we need to start using" (or something similarly clickbatey)
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About an hour before DeeAnna posted it, I read about the phrase on a list of "extinct insults we need to start using" (or something similarly clickbatey)
They get me all the time when they say things like that!
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Yes, please keep us posted. I'm no lawyer, but I've used my Legal Shield membership a few times. Money well spent! I was going to suggest it till you mentioned you're a lawyer!

Note: There is a local band here named All Hat No Cattle!
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I’ve done graphic design for some time. People don’t search for products by packaging, they search by name. Wet Shaving Products sounds nothing like Dr. Squatch. This sounds like someone is have a hissy fit. There is a lot more to trademarks and copyrights than mere slight resemblances. He does not own the rights to the fonts, this I can tell you, nor any of the dividing border dingbats either. Put his image into google image search and see how many images pop up. This may be how they found your packaging and everyone else there got a letter as well. It only picks up slight similarities such as fonts or placement. This is how people search to find out if someone has profiles on other social sites or if others are using any logos resembling their trademarked designs. If you put your own photo in there, you can find out if anyone is using your photos as well! Always a good thing to check for.
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Old 09-29-2017, 01:52 PM   #38
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I suggest that you pay a fee and consult an attorney. They can communicate with authority to the people who sent you the letter. One letter from your attorney should be all it takes to set them right.


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