Zany's no slime castile

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Hope Ann

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Are you using this soap right away or letting it cure first?
Most of it is happily curing away for some future date. However, I like to see how the soap changes over time, especially if I've done something new, so use the ends of a loaf, cut a slice into small pieces, or use guest soaps from overpour (keeping in mind that if I gelled the loaf the guest soaps may not have). It's fascinating to see how "oh fudge I really screwed up" turns into "eh, this might be salvageable" to "holy smokes this is fabulous". Or not. :-D

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I went through a phase to learn to make some old-fashioned soaps: Pine Tar, Brown Windsor, Aleppo, old-fashion lye soap, transparent soaps -- although I've yet to try "Pears". I'm working on a recipe but I'm not 'there' yet. Details elude me. So if you find a recipe for that in Soap Through the Ages I hope you'll share! 😄
I will, if it ever arrives. It was supposed to be here Tuesday. It is now Friday, still no book. I'm trying to be patient.
 
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Help ! Another failed castile :hairpulling:
Yesterday I made Zany's castile with coconut oil & castor oil...perfect ! This morning it popped out of the mold beautifully...a lovely smooth hard bar.
So proceeded to do another with 100% OO this time. All seemed to be fine...I was so confident, what could go wrong when you've only got 2 ingredients 😌 .....well something !!
First photo was when I poured, the second after 12 hours !
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I'd given it a light spritz with isopropyl alcohol, covered it with cling wrap and insulated with towels. That's a soft crust that's formed on top, underneath is thick custard. I knew it wasn't going to improve overnight so I scrapped it back into the jug, added about a Tbs of the brine/bi-carb mix, microwaved to 37 C , then SB'd for about 2 or 3 minutes until it was almost too thick to glop into the molds. Spritzed, covered and insulated again....now waiting till morning 🤞....but not confident.
Zany's instructions say to SB for 5-25 minutes depending on the quality of the oil. As I was using my friends oil from her olives that only been pressed about 2 weeks ago I assumed about 7 minutes was enough as it appeared to be a good medium trace after that time. (It was for the first successful batch with CO & castor).
Any suggestions ? I really felt that perhaps I hadn't SB'd long enough... but was worried it was going to be too thick.
Really want to get it right, as I was making these 2 batches for my friend.... who I think was a bit horrified that I was making soap out of her precious oil 😬
 

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Zany, thanks so much for this recipe. I had been meaning to try it since you first posted it, and I finally made 3 loaves of this in early March (just after shelter-in-place order). It's cured now I've been using it for a couple of weeks. Lovely soap! I always add 15% CO and 5% Castor Oil. The first (smaller) loaf I accidentally left too long in the mold and it was crumbly to cut but I got a few nice bars. My second loaf was olive oil; my third was half OO and half RBO (with CO and Castor in both). All three loaves are no slime, soft and gentle, fluffy, abundant lather, and feel good on my skin. This recipe is a keeper and it will be in my rotation forever. I'm so happy to have this recipe. Thank you!
 

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I knew it wasn't going to improve overnight so I scrapped it back into the jug, added about a Tbs of the brine/bi-carb mix, microwaved to 37 C , then SB'd for about 2 or 3 minutes until it was almost too thick to glop into the molds.
I'm a beginner so I'm just guessing here based on what I've read. That looks sort of like "alien brain." Caused by overheating during saponification. I'm guessing that microwaving it once saponification had already started is what caused it.
 

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Thanks Sparks...it certainly was alien brain and maybe it did overheat during saponification. I usually have a peek after an hour or two to see how it's going but I didn't this time...not for 12 hours, to find "AB"... so it well could have.
I didn't microwave until after I'd discovered this and had scraped it all back in the jug. As it was cold, I just wanted to warm it a little to give it another stick blend.
Anyway....problem was solved ! I just popped the rebatch out of the mold after about 15 hours and it's looking good....just been and taken a pic.
You can see it was quite gloppy when I put it in the mold the second time...and I lost two bars in the process but I think all will be good after a couple of months cure. But thanks for your suggestion of overheating being the problem... that hadn't occurred to me. 🙄
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This recipe is a keeper and it will be in my rotation forever. I'm so happy to have this recipe. Thank you!
I second miheypete's remarks...thanks Zany 🤩
Just showered with it for the first time this morning...after nearly 6 week cure :tub:....loved it and definitely NO SLIME :)
 

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This recipe is a keeper and it will be in my rotation forever. I'm so happy to have this recipe. Thank you!
You're welcome. ;)

I didn't microwave until after I'd discovered this and had scraped it all back in the jug. As it was cold, I just wanted to warm it a little to give it another stick blend. Anyway....problem was solved !
Good thinking! Nice save!!!
I second miheypete's remarks...thanks Zany
You're very welcome. ;)
Just showered with it for the first time this morning...after nearly 6 week cure :tub:....loved it and definitely NO SLIME :)
YAY!
 

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I agree with @Sparks - I don’t think there was anything wrong with your soap. It overheated a bit, which caused the wrinkled tops, but I think you could have left it to cure and it would have been fine.

The upside is, now you have experience with a microwave HP save - one that worked! That’s a good strategy to have in your arsenal.

If your friend is horrified, tell her next time you will save her good stuff for salad dressing if she will give you the pomace, or even the later pressings, for soap-making.;)
 

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I didn't microwave until after I'd discovered this and had scraped it all back in the jug. As it was cold, I just wanted to warm it a little to give it another stick blend.
Anyway....problem was solved !
Awesome! Happy it worked out. AND I learned something about troubleshooting from this. So Win-Win!
 
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where I met most of my mentors, all generous people willing to share not only their knowledge and expertise, but recipes as well. At that time, we were mostly "mad scientists" trying one thing or another and helping to trouble shoot problems.
Thanks Zany for paying it forward! I owe a lot of my soaping confidence to your kind words and encouragement. And this recipe is still my favourite! 🧼👑
 

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@Zany_in_CO thank you so much for the recipe! I tried my first batch of the No Slime Castile (+ 10% coconut oil and 5% castor oil) and was thrilled with how things went. My lye solution did turn a little cloudy, but I didn't have any small particles precipitate out. No color, no FO's.

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I unmolded it after about 14 hours and could have left it in for a few more but it was still okay, just one small section tried to pull away as I separated it from the mold.

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I will cut it tomorrow morning. I love the creamy white color. Can't wait to try it! :tub:

Thanks, Zany!
 

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Would using sea water from my local beach work just as well as mixing salt with water as above? I am very new to soak making, I have only made 2 batches using 950g OO and 50g CO would these be considered castile?
 

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Would using sea water from my local beach work just as well as mixing salt with water as above? I am very new to soak making, I have only made 2 batches using 950g OO and 50g CO would these be considered castile?
I had my son-in-law bring me a gallon of sea water from the west coast (they live on Vancouver Island). I boiled it to kill anything that might be living in it, then strained it to remove any sediment, and use it when I make this recipe. Why use faux sea water when I have access to the real thing?
 

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Thanks for the information on boiling, I would not have thought of that, I would have just used it straight from the ocean! I am in Australia and very close to the coast in Victoria. I will give it a go.
 

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My batch of no slime Castile is a year and a half now and I just started using it. The slime is significantly lower and the lather is better.

Unfortunately, my skin still hates olive oil so I won't be using it. Need to find someone who wants it, no one I know likes Castile.
 

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