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That fire-extinguisher red top left in the right mould really impresses me. Is this pure astaxanthin?

(ping @Nanna in reply to this post)
@Nanna Yes - natural reds are so hard to come by - this is an astaxanthin supplement that has rosemary leaf extract and olive oil. I am trying to source some astaxanthin powder, but it’s so expensive! I’ve been trying to negotiate with vendors on Alibaba but I don’t think they have much interest in a grandmother fooling around with soap.
who is not ever going to buy a pallet of the stuff.
I did have some luck getting a much darker red than I expected from turkey rhubarb root. Photo below shows rhubarb root infused OO on left from February, astaxanthin / iron oxide in the middle, and that nice fire engine red from astaxanthin after 24 hours. (Still saponifying but as you see it’s more orangey.) The rhubarb root appears more maroon in the photo than IRL.
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Sorry, couldn't contain this:

And: for the next party, count me in as well!
Don't forget the classic: AI Weirdness — Try these neural network-generated recipes at your...

And I promise that when I can hold molecular dinner parties again I will invite anyone who's interested, although you'll all have to pay for your own plane tickets 😆

In soapy news today, I challenged my received belief that tallow can't be used for transparent soap, with positive results:
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I also tried a one pot wonder for the first time, which... yeah...
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In soapy news today, I challenged my received belief that tallow can't be used for transparent soap, with positive results:
Who put you that idea in your head that meat juice couldn't produce clear soap? How did you make it transparent? Is this fully remeltable M&P base (glycerol, propylene glycol, sorbitol and friends), or mostly ethanol?

ETA: @VikingChick was faster than me😓
 

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How did you do that?!?
Who put you that idea in your head that meat juice couldn't produce clear soap? How did you make it transparent? Is this fully remeltable M&P base (glycerol, propylene glycol, sorbitol and friends), or mostly ethanol?

ETA: @VikingChick was faster than me😓
I can't remember where I came across the idea originally but so far I've been rationing my small supply of palm to make transparent soap for specific projects.

This is made by getting the soap to mashed potatoes stage in HP, then dissolving with ethanol, glycerine, and simple syrup. It wasn't created for the purpose of being M&P specifically, but it seems to work as such.

The recipe originated from a frenzied couple of days research session and I don't think I have notes on sources unfortunately...
 

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That's mostly the stuff of which M&P is made. Sugar can discolour the melt, when in doubt swap it for sorbitol (or more glycerol). And the ethanol can become troublesome on the long run when it slowly evaporates and makes remelting more difficult. IME proplyene glycol is really worth its money to make high-clarity, firm M&P base with a sharp melting point, good fluidity and a low skin formation.

But anyway, it's a nice clear brick! A few percent superfat would have ruined it. Is it 100% tallow, or did you add lauric oil too?
 

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That's mostly the stuff of which M&P is made. Sugar can discolour the melt, when in doubt swap it for sorbitol (or more glycerol). And the ethanol can become troublesome on the long run when it slowly evaporates and makes remelting more difficult. IME proplyene glycol is really worth its money to make high-clarity, firm M&P base with a sharp melting point, good fluidity and a low skin formation.

But anyway, it's a nice clear brick! A few percent superfat would have ruined it. Is it 100% tallow, or did you add lauric oil too?
It's part tallow and part coconut, with some castor as well.

This one is formulated purely for looks, I'm afraid! I actually do have M&P related plans for this particular batch, and it should be good enough for those purposes. I looked into getting the ingredients you mention, but the best prices I could get were still extortionate, and I don't make it often enough to justify it.

Time will tell as to whether I decide to take that route in future :)
 

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My M&P enthusiasm has cooled off a lot, since I learned (the hard way) which strange limits it poses on the fatty acid profile. Tallow and palm oil are about the softest fats to make decent M&P from. Little luck with any step further into the direction of liquid oils. Coconut, soy/canola wax (and castor) make the highest-performance M&P bases, but I'm having a hard time to enjoy the resulting soaps themselves. High oleic to no avail (let alone linoleic 😕). No wonder that many recipes call for refined fatty acids (stearic, myristic), but at these level it's painful to watch others fight against instantaneous ricing.
 

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I'm having a hard time to enjoy the resulting soaps themselves.
Yes, they're certainly plenty bubbly, and you can get some amazing visual effects, but they always seem to me to be somehow cheap as an actual soap to wash with. Formulation wise I'm much more interested in exploring the Shea/cocoa butter angle and finding a recipe that feels luxurious to me.
But volume wise it's the artistic angle that draws me back, and I'm happy with my swirling recipe now. It's a nice low cleansing one with a creamy lather and while it may never win any prizes, I like it as a general purpose soap..
 

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@Nanna Yes - natural reds are so hard to come by - this is an astaxanthin supplement that has rosemary leaf extract and olive oil. I am trying to source some astaxanthin powder, but it’s so expensive! I’ve been trying to negotiate with vendors on Alibaba but I don’t think they have much interest in a grandmother fooling around with soap.
who is not ever going to buy a pallet of the stuff.
I did have some luck getting a much darker red than I expected from turkey rhubarb root. Photo below shows rhubarb root infused OO on left from February, astaxanthin / iron oxide in the middle, and that nice fire engine red from astaxanthin after 24 hours. (Still saponifying but as you see it’s more orangey.) The rhubarb root appears more maroon in the photo than IRL.
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Thanks for the pics, I really would like to try the rhubarb😃
 

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I managed to unmould and cut this before I left for the hospital this morning, I'm pleased with how dramatic it looks. It's a very mild soap, unscented, with activated charcoal. Fingers crossed it'll work for my combination skin!

Now sitting waiting for the procedure, nurse had to get the "difficult veins specialist" to pop the cannula in - not being allowed to drink before has left me a bit dehydrated...

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I managed to unmould and cut this before I left for the hospital this morning, I'm pleased with how dramatic it looks. It's a very mild soap, unscented, with activated charcoal. Fingers crossed it'll work for my combination skin!

Now sitting waiting for the procedure, nurse had to get the "difficult veins specialist" to pop the cannula in - not being allowed to drink before has left me a bit dehydrated...

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Wow, those are gorgeous! What a great combination of colours!

Best of luck with your procedure today 🤞
 

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Wow, those are gorgeous! What a great combination of colours!

Best of luck with your procedure today 🤞
Thank you, it went fine, nothing obvious to cause my symptoms but they took a few biopsies so I'll get an appointment when the results of that come back. Not fun, but quick at least and I'm home resting now so all is good. The sedative has left me sleepy but not too out of it, which is a relief.
 

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Biscuits, anyone?

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(contains traces of lollipop swirl margarine)

The rolled oats soaked up some of the pumpkin seed oil, so they caught some greenish olive tint. It is the laziest of all recipes: just spread the dough on a baking sheet, criss-cross with a knife, and put it into the oven.

No beauties for sure, but they aren't intended to win a beauty contest, but to taste good and to put on weight 🤣.


Back to (soap) topic: Yesterday evening, once the biscuits were in the oven, I also made my first soap dough. Due to my impatience with melting the cocoa butter, the oils might have been a bit too warm (40°C) for my understanding of soap dough to avoid gel phase by all means (?). The batter considerably traced by itself and I didn't even need the stick blender. That's why I put it outside (5°C) overnight. Some 16 hours later, saponification appears to be largely done, and it has a nice and smooth texture, is zero brittle but still a bit sticky. I'll leave it well wrapped for a few days at room temperature, until I'll need it.
 

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I doubt I'll get any more soaping done today, but I did get the tallow almost all the way to finished! I now have about 11 litres of it in a fermenting barrel, and some dregs in a bowl to cool and separate tomorrow.

I cut the one pot not-very-wonderful; it's interesting but not what I was aiming for, obviously.
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When I was in the chemist yesterday, I noticed they had Jasmine EO and was curious, remembering everyone I've read here. It was €4.99 for 10ml, the ingredients just say "oils extracted from jasmine", and it has a very strong authentic smell, so I gave it a try in the above soap. Of course I had forgotten about the tendency of florals to accelerate, hence the design fail. It still smells the same and very strong today, I'll be curious to see how it cures.

I also poured and cut another design fail - all this thinking about the lollipop pour got me wondering what it looks like inside, so of course I tried a transparent version to find out! However the separate parts did not approve of the order I put them in, they wanted to be green on the bottom and peach on top, and reorganised themselves despite my efforts. I presume it's due to the relative amounts of air bubbles in each part.
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Don't forget the classic: AI Weirdness — Try these neural network-generated recipes at your...

And I promise that when I can hold molecular dinner parties again I will invite anyone who's interested, although you'll all have to pay for your own plane tickets 😆

In soapy news today, I challenged my received belief that tallow can't be used for transparent soap, with positive results:
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I also tried a one pot wonder for the first time, which... yeah...
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🤣🤣🤣
Your transparent soap looks lovely! yay!!! What happened to your one pot wonder? Technically, I'd call it a "wonder"! 😁

I replied before I saw the end result of your one pot wonder. I think it's fantastic! Your color choice is spot on, per usual, and I am dutifuly impressed that you made such a lovely soap from such thick batter. Nicely done!
 

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