# want to try making liquid soap

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#### deafsoaper

##### Well-Known Member
Hi,

I been making cold process soap since summer last year and been going good.

I want to try and get into liquid soap

my cold process recipe is

85.6g water
57.07g NaOH
410g Oils
superfat 7%
water: lye ratio is 1.5: 1

additional to the recipe with 4.1g citric acid and 2.33g NaOH

I convert the recipe to using KOH and it show

133.39g Water
88.93g KOH 90% pure
410g Oils
superfat 7%
water: lye ratio is 1.5: 1

I'm not sure on the citric acid situation for liquid if I can do the same calculation for NaOH 1% of oils weight

thanks

#### Zany_in_CO

##### Saponifier
I been making cold process soap since summer last year and been going good.
Good for you!
I want to try and get into liquid soap
There are about as many ways to make LS as there are liquid soapmakers! LOL The latest LS du jour is featured in this thread. Worth a peak, but before purchasing the Ultimate Guide to Making Liquid Soap you may want to read through this Tutorial to become familiar with the process and the terms we use:

Basic Beginners Liquid Soap
Read it over 2-3 times. Then try making a few small batches (400 grams?) using 50% coconut + 50% liquid oils of choice for a well-balanced recipe.

This tutorial is also worth a look:
Shampoo Tutorial With Pictures

my cold process recipe is
There is more to making LS than simply using KOH instead of NaOH. It's a whole new ballgame.
I convert the recipe to using KOH and it show

133.39g Water
88.93g KOH 90% pure
410g Oils
superfat 7%
water: lye ratio is 1.5: 1
For water to lye ratio: type in 3:1
For superfat: ) 0% SF is best. Having unsaponifed oils floating around isn't a good idea.

KOH 90% pure - That is correct.

I'm not sure on the citric acid situation for liquid if I can do the same calculation for NaOH 1% of oils weight
First, make up a 20% solution of 1 part Citric Acid to 4 parts water. I warm this in the microwave to get the CA fully dissolved, then store it on the shelf until needed.

Use Rate: 0.75 oz. of the 20% solution per pound of "paste" weight. "Paste" is the term used for the soap batch before dilution.

Caution: Citric Acid serves a couple of different purposes. It can "neutralize" any excess lye. Also, it can be used to adjust the pH. Liquid Soap is fine with pH 11 - 9. There's really no need to go lower and risk spoiling the soap. If too much CA is used it can cause the oils to separate.

HAPPY LS-ing!!!

#### deafsoaper

##### Well-Known Member
Good for you!

There are about as many ways to make LS as there are liquid soapmakers! LOL The latest LS du jour is featured in this thread. Worth a peak, but before purchasing the Ultimate Guide to Making Liquid Soap you may want to read through this Tutorial to become familiar with the process and the terms we use:

Basic Beginners Liquid Soap
Read it over 2-3 times. Then try making a few small batches (400 grams?) using 50% coconut + 50% liquid oils of choice for a well-balanced recipe.

This tutorial is also worth a look:
Shampoo Tutorial With Pictures

There is more to making LS than simply using KOH instead of NaOH. It's a whole new ballgame.

For water to lye ratio: type in 3:1
For superfat: ) 0% SF is best. Having unsaponifed oils floating around isn't a good idea.

KOH 90% pure - That is correct.

First, make up a 20% solution of 1 part Citric Acid to 4 parts water. I warm this in the microwave to get the CA fully dissolved, then store it on the shelf until needed.

Use Rate: 0.75 oz. of the 20% solution per pound of "paste" weight. "Paste" is the term used for the soap batch before dilution.

Caution: Citric Acid serves a couple of different purposes. It can "neutralize" any excess lye. Also, it can be used to adjust the pH. Liquid Soap is fine with pH 11 - 9. There's really no need to go lower and risk spoiling the soap. If too much CA is used it can cause the oils to separate.

HAPPY LS-ing!!!
thanks for the information and reccommendation

look like liquid soap is a bit more fussy than I thought lol

#### Zany_in_CO

##### Saponifier
look like liquid soap is a bit more fussy than I thought lol
No worries. Take your time. You can do it!

#### shae31

##### Member
what products would fall under the categories of superfats? newbie here

#### Zany_in_CO

##### Saponifier
what products would fall under the categories of superfats? newbie here
Hi shea31!

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