JuneP
Well-Known Member
I've read a lot about super fatting, but have a question. In watching some CP soap making videos on you tube I've seen the person adding one oil, at what looks like light trace; and she said she was super fatting. Doesn't just lowering the lye equate super fatting; or is there another reason to add some oils after light trace? And if there is a reason, do you then have to adjust the lye content since maybe adding that oil after trace, means that there was more lye available to the rest of the fats and oils, which could possible make the soap harsh????
Also if you want to add more coconut oil, (say 22% rather than 20% as some suggest), how much more should you super fat to compensate for the drying?
Still putting off trying one of my own slow tracing recipes till I feel somewhat confident that I will have a nice lathering, conditioning, safe recipe. So much to learn; but eager to do so!
Here's the latest slow tracing recipes I've come up with using Soap Calc. The first one is with palm oil and the second with lard and no palm. Both have Coconut over 20%, so I set super fatting/lye discount a 6 and Water as % of oils weight 38%.
Recipes #1
%
42.73 Olive Oil Pomace
21.21 Coconut Oil 76
24.24 Palm Oil
7.58 Sweet Almond Oil
3.03 Castor OIl
1.21 Canola Oil
37 Hardness
14 Cleansing
60 Conditioning
17 Bubbly
25 Creamy
62 Iodine
145 INS
Fragrance 0.7
Recipe #2
42.73 Olive Oil Pomace
21.00 Coconut Oil 76
25.06 Lard
7.58 Sweet Almond OIl
2.42 Castor Oil
1.21 Canola Oil
35 Hardness
14 Cleansing
61 Conditioning
17 Bubbly
23 Creamy
62 Iodie
145 INS
Fragrance 0.7
Is 35 hardness hard enough? I don't know what number to aim for when designing these recipes. I know where the cleaning and Bubbly would work OK, but I'm a bit in the dark on the hardness and creamy numbers.
I back engineered a couple of slow tracing recipes and some of them had quite low hardness numbers (31 hardness in one), and I can't seem to get the hardness number higher in my recipes, shown here, , when attempting to keep the hard oils in the 45% recommended range for a slow tracing soap. I've kept out Cocoa butter and Shea butter since they are quick tracers. I tried added some sodium lactate, but so little is recommended that it didn't seem to up the hardness level much.
June
Also if you want to add more coconut oil, (say 22% rather than 20% as some suggest), how much more should you super fat to compensate for the drying?
Still putting off trying one of my own slow tracing recipes till I feel somewhat confident that I will have a nice lathering, conditioning, safe recipe. So much to learn; but eager to do so!
Here's the latest slow tracing recipes I've come up with using Soap Calc. The first one is with palm oil and the second with lard and no palm. Both have Coconut over 20%, so I set super fatting/lye discount a 6 and Water as % of oils weight 38%.
Recipes #1
%
42.73 Olive Oil Pomace
21.21 Coconut Oil 76
24.24 Palm Oil
7.58 Sweet Almond Oil
3.03 Castor OIl
1.21 Canola Oil
37 Hardness
14 Cleansing
60 Conditioning
17 Bubbly
25 Creamy
62 Iodine
145 INS
Fragrance 0.7
Recipe #2
42.73 Olive Oil Pomace
21.00 Coconut Oil 76
25.06 Lard
7.58 Sweet Almond OIl
2.42 Castor Oil
1.21 Canola Oil
35 Hardness
14 Cleansing
61 Conditioning
17 Bubbly
23 Creamy
62 Iodie
145 INS
Fragrance 0.7
Is 35 hardness hard enough? I don't know what number to aim for when designing these recipes. I know where the cleaning and Bubbly would work OK, but I'm a bit in the dark on the hardness and creamy numbers.
I back engineered a couple of slow tracing recipes and some of them had quite low hardness numbers (31 hardness in one), and I can't seem to get the hardness number higher in my recipes, shown here, , when attempting to keep the hard oils in the 45% recommended range for a slow tracing soap. I've kept out Cocoa butter and Shea butter since they are quick tracers. I tried added some sodium lactate, but so little is recommended that it didn't seem to up the hardness level much.
June
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