Shampoo Bar - Thanks Lindy!!

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  1. May 15, 2018 #801

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    My husband and I use shampoo bars.. mine is drying to me but I just use conditioner after shampooing and it’s perfect . He has oilier hair and it’s great-he loves it. I just made a big batch but I am anxious to try yours. (Mine used Tallow and I’d like to not have to use it) Then maybe my girls would try it. Thank you. I’ll let you know.
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    I sow this post and because of it my question coming .
    in this recipe chamomile is infused in oils . and because this process takes at least 3 weeks (as I had read ) i start to wondering can i use chamomile extract , and how.
     
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    Hi Alex- if you don't want to make an oil infusion, you can always make a 'tea infusion' instead, which you can then use as part or all of your water amount for your batch of soap. The tea infusion takes only 8 hours of steeping (instead of 3 weeks for an oil infusion). I found the steeping directions for it over on the WSP site in their Q/A section regarding their powdered chamomile extract. Their directions say to use a ratio of 2 cups of boiling water per 3 tablespoons of the powdered chamomile extract, cover, and let steep for 8 hours.

    If you're going to use it as your lye water, I would strain it after steeping and refrigerate it to get it cold before adding the lye.

    Or you can mix your lye with an equal amount of water in weight, and then to your batter add the tea infusion as your remaining amount of water that's needed.

    Here are some other sites I found with instructions of how to add powdered chamomile extract to soap:

    https://botaniesoap.com/soapmaking-supplies/herbs-dry/herbs-chamomile-powder.html

    http://www.lovinsoap.com/2015/07/chamomile-yarrow-herb-soap/


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    I'm still relatively new to soaping, I've wanted to make shampoo bars as well but ones I've bought leave my hair dry or a film on it. I work with weights not percentage (I'm horrible at math) so when I figure this out I'm going to try it.
     
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    Many thanks your answer was very helpful !
     
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    It's on the very first page/first post of this thread.

    You really need to make soap by percentages. Using a soap calculator makes it easy. Also be sure to measure in grams.....more accurate especially when first making small batches as a beginner. I make large batches and still weigh in grams for accuracy.
     
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    Welcome, CartecayFarm! :) I just went in and fixed the broken link (it works now), but for what it's worth, Lindy's post in the linked thread that Genny referred to in her opening post does not contain Lindy's shampoo bar recipe.....it only includes Lindy's advice to not use coconut oil in a shampoo bar. Lindy has actually never posted her shampoo bar recipe on the forum, and whenever she was asked, she was always very adamant about not doing so since its a best-selling item in her line of handmade products. She was, however always generous with giving advice/tips on what types of oils to use or to avoid when formulating a good shampoo bar, and also what kinds of additives are good to include.

    Here are some of Lindy's posts where she gives advice/tips on making a good shampoo bar:

    https://www.soapmakingforum.com/thr...de-shampoo-and-other-stuff.28892/#post-272818

    https://www.soapmakingforum.com/threads/making-shampoo-bar-soap.28884/#post-272807

    https://www.soapmakingforum.com/threads/making-shampoo-bar-soap.28884/#post-272914


    HTH!
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    Thank you for your warm welcome. Do I understand that there is no lye in the shampoo bar? I make goat's milk soap and sell a lot of it but have not been successful in making shampoo, it leaves my hair heavy and dry feeling.
     
  10. May 17, 2018 at 1:37 AM #810

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    shampoo bars are made with lye but like other lye soap, none remains after saponification if it was formulated properly.

    Most people can't use lye soap on their hair. Generally leaves it dry, coated and eventually damaged to the point of needing to cut all off.

    I used shampoo bars for two years, thought my hair was fine until it suddenly started snapping off in big chunks. I had to shave it all off.
     
  11. May 17, 2018 at 2:01 AM #811

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    So what is the answer to making shampoo, with lye or without? I am more confused than ever!
     
  12. May 17, 2018 at 2:22 AM #812

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    The shampoo bar recipes that are included in this particular thread all use lye as the catalyst for making the soap, but as Obsidian pointed out, once the chemical reaction of saponification is complete, there is no more raw lye present (it has all been reacted with the oils to form soap, if properly made).

    There is another way to make shampoo bars, though, that doesn't rely on lye, but synthetic detergents instead, such as SLS or SLES or Cocoa Betaine, etc.....



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