I couldn’t smell the orange at all in mine right after I made it and then it was back the next daythe CP kills the fragrance.
Yes, same concentration as the previous soap. 5ml. It's what I typically do with my CP soap w/o problems. I think I've decided not to use it in CP as much. I love how it holds in my HP soap. I will make a non-transparent HP soap test next using the 5ml of wax.It will take a more experience member to diagnose based on the photos. In the details you provided above above, you mentioned that you added 5 mls of orange wax as if it was an EO. Did you do the same for the cp soap recipe? What was the weight of oils for the cp batter? For the all orange soap I made, I used lanolin as a surrogate for the orange wax in SoapCalc, used a recipe with 50% PO, 15% CO, 3% orange wax and the rest soft oils, but then forgot the 5% castor oil. That would mean that I was low on the SF, but it passed the zap test the next day. I use 33% lye concentration. My orange wax is very thick.
I don’t have enough experience to offer much insight, but I wonder if you would have better luck by incorporating the orange wax in the oil calculation, which is what I did. I used lanolin as the surrogate. That gives you a reasonable estimates of the amount of lye needed and takes the unsaponifiables into account. You could probably still add some orange EO, which I think would up the orange peel notes. I think those are a little subdued in my soaps, which tend to smell more like the whole orange.Mojack. My batter did not look like that at all. It was smooth and maroon in color. I wonder if it was a false trace now that I think of about it. I added the wax after what looked like light trace and only stirred it into the batter for a few seconds to disperse. I wonder if all the unsaponifiables interfered with proper saponification of the soap as it set.
Fantastic! I’m so glad that you got it to work and that your son likes it. Win! Win!This is my recent CP soap using my own recipe. I use OJ instead of water to dissolve lye. This soap contains 10% orange wax. Lovely colour and fragrance. No essential oils added. Pleased with the consistency of the batter and firmness. Thanks Mobjack!
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BTW, the transparent, glyercin soap with orange wax was a hit with my son!
All the colour from orange peel wax and OJ. The OJ, when exposed to lye, turns an orange-red in colour.Fantastic! I’m so glad that you got it to work and that your son likes it. Win! Win!
P.S. did you use anything else for color? The color looks great.
Haha - yes, I will close my eyes and pretend I'm in a flower patch! I used it again last night, and while the first whiffs are overwhelmingly like wet dog, after my brain focuses on the fact it is ORANGE! ORANGE! I do definitely smell orange peel.I did a quick, cursory search for additional information on citral and found that it is comprised on geranial and neral (in one source, but possibly neryl? in other sources). Interestingly, it looks like these constituents are in lemongrass, palmarosa, petitgrain, geranium, and rose, for examples. There’s also a p-mentha 1,8 something constituent in orange wax that turns out to be a form of limonene. According to the New Direction chemical analysis for IFRA standards, the citral could be 1 to 10x the p-mentha. Maybe you can reimagine the doggy smell as palmarosa or geranium @HowieRoll .
Looking back at one of my earlier posts, the little soap in the front is ungelled and the larger soaps in the back are gelled. The gelled soaps were from a loaf and the little one was extra batter I put in an individual mold. I still have no idea why I ended up with the blotchy discoloration in the orange wax layers, but it was probably a technique issue. In both cases the yellow is so nice, and so different from what I achieved in the recent soaps. ,aybe I should cut one of the flower soaps in half to see what’s in the middle, or scrub one with distilled water to see if the outer layer is ash hiding a beautiful yellow below.Haha - yes, I will close my eyes and pretend I'm in a flower patch! I used it again last night, and while the first whiffs are overwhelmingly like wet dog, after my brain focuses on the fact it is ORANGE! ORANGE! I do definitely smell orange peel.
As for the color of yours, that is super perplexing why the colors are so different. In my (long-winded) post above I forgot to mention that I wrapped the slab mold with a towel and left it on the counter overnight. I normally CPOP, but wanted to give the orange smells in this batch the best chance of survival at their fittest. Now I wonder if the color would have morphed at all had I CPOP'd it, although at 10% orange wax it was pretty intense to begin with.
This is fascinating stuff, I really wish I could find a supplier that's trustworthy and that carries orange wax. I've found Etsy and Amazon suppliers and what looks like a homemade operation online, however I would prefer a well known company to work with here to start. NDA doesn't appear to carry orange wax anymore. :-(