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  1. Oct 12, 2018 #301

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    1. Thanks- that's great advice.
    2. Yes, I agree- but when you're not masterbatching, "additional liquid" was weird because it was the ONLY liquid, so that's why we took it out. I wonder how we could word this to be clear in both cases?
     
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    @Yooper does "total" need to be in recipe? The header already says Recipe Totals so it seems redundant to include that in some of the descriptions.
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    Question for others testing the program without masterbatching: would it cause confusion to remove the 'extra' word Total from the highlighted fields above? To me, it wouldn't be confusing because the header says Recipe Totals so that tells me that everything below is the full amount of the recipe.

    For masterbatchers:
    Does it still make sense for masterbatching to just say Liquid Required and Masterbatch Lye Weight? To me it's clearer without "total" that Liquid Required is how much I need to add in addition to my masterbatch lye.
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    As I played with the calculator today, I thought back to when I first used a lye/soaping calculator. At the time, I found it very intimating. I was wondering: is it possible to have a few simple recipes preset somewhere that a beginner could use either for a first batch of soap, or as a starting point for their first recipe? Maybe one would be a lard recipe, another could be vegan, and another palm free... Just a thought.
     
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    Yea we could do that. Does anyone else support this? Not sure how in demand it is.
     
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    Okay, haven't been making soap lately but today I put together a bunch of batches. I always list the oils, lye and water amounts on each pot before stowing them on the shelf so I finally had a chance to check out the calc. I like it! Only thing I found wrong was when I printed out the recipe there was "Soapmaking Friend" in bold black letters across the top..
     
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    Hmmmm, I think you're right. Let's just say "liquid required" instead of "additional" or "total"? I think that would alleviate all of the ambiguity.

    Yes, I think a few basic recipes showing how the calculator works would be great. That way, someone search for soap recipes would also find our site and have some examples for basic easy soaps with easy to source ingredients.

    We are still working on the print portion, and it's a work in progress. I'll keep everyone informed when we think it's just about set, so we can double check it.
     
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    Perhaps we can have EITHER

    Two lines saying:
    "Total liquid required without masterbatching
    Additional liquid required if masterbatching"

    OR

    A "tool tip" (on hover) that states the alternative, with the default being total liquid.
     
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    I had already just suggested the tool tip about 20 minutes ago- but we aren't sure about it. I think the two lines, while helpful, seem to be more confusing.
     
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    For liquid soapers, do you need the dilution water percentage and amounts on the calculator?

    I haven't used one, as I just dilute slowly, until it's right, but do you add the dilutent by a percentage and then wait?
     
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    I'm voting yes on some basic receipes....would be great to point people to!
     
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    I think basic recipes would help us newbies. Maybe have a button that would automatically list for you quantities for a castille soap (least number of fats), one soap that uses a bigger number of fats like 5-6, but customisable to use animal fats or not, palm oil or not, scented or unscented, etc. and all for maybe say 1lb test batches. That way we can try some or all the features of the calc at one go.

    Like this? I think it's fine.

    Also mold capacity/total batch weight seems to be fixed. Yey!

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    Oh, sorry; I somehow missed that suggestion from you.
    I hope the tool tip works. If not, how about displaying the appropriate text depending on whether "Masterbatch lye?" is chosen or not?
     
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    I don't see "Coconut Fatty Acid" in your ingredients. It is often used in making shaving creams...
     
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    I haven't seen it in other calculators, but I don't make shaving cream. Can you give us some information on it?
     
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    Yea we need suggestions as it comes to shaving creams. What tool do you use now for that?
     
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    Its easy to use. I like all the information, since I am a newbie. So all the info you can put out there, the better for me to understand. I like being able to put in percentage, then have it adjust to the amount of oils I want, since I frequently have a recipe but it's not for the amount of oils I want to use. I couldn't log in using my email/pw.
    Agree with everyone about the print.
    And YES to beginner recipes!!

    When I played with it, I started out with the Percentages, and entered the amount of oils I wanted to end up with. After I was done, I clicked on the Ounces button in 2) and I would have expected to see the ounces I had from my previous calculations move over to the Selected Oils editable textbox. But it kept the percentage I had entered and used that as ounces. For example, I had Canola oil at 25% and that translated 7 oz based on my yield of 28 oz oils. When I clicked on Ounces in 2), I would have expected the 7 to move over to the middle box, or really, I would have expected all the OZ column (far right) in the Selected Oils section to move to the middle column. Instead, the tool interpreted that the previous 25% now meant 25 oz. With other soap calculators i have used, that is what happens. Does that make sense?

    I do like this!
     
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    Sure, I could see value in being able to alter back and forth. @Yooper
     
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    I agree that's annoying that it changed my oil weights to what the percentages had been. I hadn't tried clicking percentages after in putting my oil weights, but I could see doing it occasionally.
     
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    This should be fine now
     
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    I like this! Helps a lot when one doesn't need to go calculate mold capacity elsewhere. Thanks!
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    I also like this! Helps with not needing to scroll down every time to know the needed oil weight. I noticed it changes later below to account for caustic soda, liquid, etc. but at least here I can get an estimate, in case I'm working with what I have on hand only. Thanks again!
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