Quantcast

My soap turned brown!

SoapMakingForum

Help Support SoapMakingForum:

Rigneylane

Member
Joined
Feb 27, 2013
Messages
23
Reaction score
3
Location
Missouri
Decided to make some shortening soap, and bought some (inexpensive!) shortening, the ingredients: SOYBEAN OIL, FULLY HYDROGENATED PALM OIL, PARTIALLY HYDROGENTATED PALM & SOYBEAN OILS, MONO & DIGLYCERIDES, TBHQ & CITRIC ACID. I have not used this particular shortening before, although I have used shortening in the past (but never had the soap turn brown.):sad: As soon as the lye was stirred in, the soap turned deep brown! Never seen this before!
The recipe included 76-CO, PKO, Shortening, beeswax, and olive oil. The only new ingredient was the shortening-all the rest of the ingredients were from partial stocks used with good results.
Is the palm oil the culprit?? Any ideas or similar experiences?
 

cmzaha

Supporting Member
Joined
Sep 19, 2011
Messages
11,199
Reaction score
10,035
Location
Southern California
As Blaney mentioned, any fo with vanilla will turn brown. Anywhere from light brown to dark chestnut brown and vanilla stabilizers (VS) only work for a while and the soap will turn after a few months. So don't waste money on expensive VS.
Another thought, what did you use for liquid?
 
Last edited:

newbie

Lifetime Supporter
Joined
Nov 6, 2010
Messages
6,115
Reaction score
5,433
With many oils, and palm is one, when you add the lye water and start to blend, the mixture will turn a golden brown color. It won't be a deep brown like chocolate or coffee, but a medium golden brown, which is completely normal. Uncolored soap made with palm is generally off white once its saponified or it could be lightly beige/tan. It's the nature of the oils.
 

cmzaha

Supporting Member
Joined
Sep 19, 2011
Messages
11,199
Reaction score
10,035
Location
Southern California
I agree Dixiedragon, but I have a couple of fo's that do turn dark as soon as they hit the lye. My DB will darken my batter as soon as I add it, but the bars them self take 2 days to actually darken. Botanicals, teas, and as mentioned some oils can turn brown. My pistachio butter will usually turn to a medium brown when I pour in the lye solution depending of course what else in in the pot
 

Rigneylane

Member
Joined
Feb 27, 2013
Messages
23
Reaction score
3
Location
Missouri
Thanks for all the information and suggestions. The brown color happened before the addition of any fragrance oils. So perhaps it is the nature of that particular palm oil, as suggested.
 

MorpheusPA

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 20, 2010
Messages
777
Reaction score
738
How deep brown is deep brown? Pure palm may go a beige, which will lighten somewhat during cure.

I haven't used beeswax so can't say what that'll do, but honey will turn a deep caramel color as the lye is added. It lightens during cure by a great deal.
 

Rigneylane

Member
Joined
Feb 27, 2013
Messages
23
Reaction score
3
Location
Missouri
This was a very deep, muddy brown. The soap went through a normal trace and heating phase, and now after 3 days in the mold, (wood, lined with seran wrap) it is a dark, muddy tan color, but is solid. Come to think of it, the beeswax (used at 1.4%) came off a brick I have been saving for awhile that I haven't used for soap before. I will have to use that wax in another batch with no shortening to see if perhaps it was the wax. Thanks for mentioning that!
 

Obsidian

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jun 18, 2013
Messages
9,875
Reaction score
7,231
Location
Idaho, USA
My beeswax soaps always turn brown too. If I can prevent gel, they stay a nice creamy tan but stopping gel with beeswax is nearly impossible, at least for me.
 
Top