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Catscankim

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The very first soap that i made was my 80/20 lard coconut bar On 5/30. Over the past maybe two weeks i have been using it at the sink. Feels really really nice and has bubbles. Yesterday i took that bar into the shower and its not so bubbly or showery feeling.

as it was my very first soap, it has no additives. Except hang on.... .7 oz lavender eo and .3 oz peppermint eo. The peppermint didnt stick.

its a terrible bar in the shower. Is it always gonna be like that or should i give it more cure time to make a decision on the recipe? i had planned on using lard bars as my go to recipe because its cheap, lol, but as it stands, i dont like it other than at the sink.

i have learned a few other things since then, so i can do some additives if necessary.
 

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I personally settled on 70-75% lard bc it wasn’t bubbly enough for me if I used more lard than that. The remainder is 20-25% CO and 5% castor. Sometimes I use 5% shea and take it out of the lard.

To increase and stabilize lather, I also add 1 T sugar PPO, and 2T powdered GM PPO.

Finally, I use either 100% white vinegar or AVJ for the lye liquid, and sodium lactate for hardening. I’ll use salt if I’m out of SL, but I like the SL better - hardens better and doesn’t seem to dampen the lather as much.

The combination of those oils with those additives make the difference for me between a soap that I like, and a soap that I love. YMMV.

ETA: high lard bars need a longer cure, IMO. They improve greatly after 6 weeks, and are ideal for me at 8 weeks.
 

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My early experiments with high shea/cocoa butter bars have a luxurious creamy lather at the sink but are rather disappointing in the shower after an 8 week cure. I do have one that knocked my socks off with how nice it was in the shower—the only difference was that I used AVJ for all of my liquid and had jojoba beads in there for scrub. I think the combo of the sugars in the AVJ and the exfoliants agitating the lather made it really nice.
 

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Personally I think all soaps have better lather at the sink coz there's more "rubbing" action going on in a smaller surface area.. Or maybe that depends on how you soap up in the shower lol

@sarahmarah I count cure time of my high shea/cocoa/mango soaps by months, not weeks - minimum 4mos. Even then, not many prefer that kind of creamy lather to other soaps higher in canola or sunflower oil for example.

@Catscankim The highest I've gone with lard is 60% and I quite like that one and it's one of my mom's favourites. Coconut is 15% and castor at usual 5%. The rest is either olive, RBO or sweet almond. My usual additives are salt, sugar and coconut milk powder. I'd say it doesn't take as long to cure as the high butter ones, but it's there at "longer than usual" hehehe
 
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