Maximum Coconut Oil Amount?

[Dean]

"...I've heard that linoleic over 15% results in DOS...."

Ahem. I'd like to correct the record, please. What you have heard -- from me at least -- is that some soapers follow a RULE OF THUMB to keep the combined linoleic + linolenic at 15% or less.

It's MORE LIKELY that rancidity may occur at higher amounts of linoleic + linolenic, but no one is saying that rancidity WILL happen. There are so many other variables that affect whether rancidity does occur -- other additives and fats in the recipe, soaping temperatures, storage conditions, the use of antioxidants and chelators, etc.

I stand corrected!

 

[penelopejane]

Dr. Bronner’s soap isnt drying even tho the first listed ingredient is CO. I wonder y CO in handmade is so drying...

Do not get me started on Dr Bronner’s soap.
Not only is Dr Bronner’s soap not Castile but it’s not mild at all.

 

[Nanditasr]

Yes. My dry, old-lady skin likes less than 12% lauric and myristic combo.
Carol

Seriously, it's a case of different soaps for different folks! My friend, a 77-year old lady, loves my 100% CO bar with 10% SF, which I hate -- it makes my skin like leather. And she was not very impressed by the more conditioning one -- and this was in the winter! One non-CO bar I love is the one given by @penelopejane at https://www.soapmakingforum.com/threads/maximum-of-cocoabutter-in-cp.61238/.

 

[Yooper]

Seriously, it's a case of different soaps for different folks! My friend, a 77-year old lady, loves my 100% CO bar with 10% SF, which I hate -- it makes my skin like leather. And she was not very impressed by the more conditioning one -- and this was in the winter! One non-CO bar I love is the one given by @penelopejane at https://www.soapmakingforum.com/threads/maximum-of-cocoabutter-in-cp.61238/.

I LOVE my salt bar with 100% CO, 20% SF, and 50% weight in salt. I have, um, mature skin. And it's awesome for me. My friend sells a wonderful "luxury" bar with avocado oil and real avocadoes, and it feels rich and wonderful and fabulous. And it makes me break out- so I had wrinkles, gray hair, and pimples when I used it.

Interestingly, my husband, who is 63 years old and has rather oily skin does well with the salt bars as well. He also uses the salt bars as a shampoo bar, but hates my actual shampoo bars for his hair.

So "it depends" really is the answer for this question.

 

[Nanditasr]

I LOVE my salt bar with 100% CO, 20% SF, and 50% weight in salt.

I too love my brine bars! I've not tried salt bars yet.

 

[Lin19687]

I just want to bump this and another thread because it has such GREAT INFO on it........... IF you read the whole thread.

 

[Dean]

Using my third bar of 15% CO (10% lauric + myristic). It is definitively drying. Took a few weeks before it really started to dry my skin out. Debating whether to go down to 10% CO or no CO at all (0% lauric + mrystic). Anyone tried making a 0% lauric + myristic bar. How was it? Did it lather at all?

 

[Lin19687]

which out CO for PKO and see how you like it

 

[Nanditasr]

Using my third bar of 15% CO (10% lauric + myristic). Anyone tried making a 0% lauric + myristic bar. How was it? Did it lather at all?

Take a look at the link I have given earlier in this thread (this is message 49; I have given it in message 45 43) -- that recipe has no lauric or myristic acid.
Yes, it does lather -- a nice, creamy lather.

 

[Lin19687]

*switch, sorry about that

 

[Dean]

Take a look at the link I have given earlier in this thread (this is message 49; I have given it in message 45) -- that recipe has no lauric or myristic acid.
Yes, it does lather -- a nice, creamy lather.

Thank you. Do you mean message 43 referencing Genny's shampoo bar?

 

[Nanditasr]

Thank you. Do you mean message 43 referencing Genny's shampoo bar?

Yes, you're right. Sorry about the faulty numbering. Shall edit that.

 

[Dean]

Do u guys think Ill get any bubbly lather out of 10% CO soap with no other lauric/myristic oils? I tried no CO and got no bubbles. 15% CO is drying for me.

 

[Nanditasr]

Do u guys think Ill get any bubbly lather out of 10% CO soap with no other lauric/myristic oils? I tried no CO and got no bubbles. 15% CO is drying for me.

You mean you tried Genny's shampoo bar?
Actually, I find that any non-bubbly soap produces bubbles after three months. However, if you don't want to wait that long, you can make a non-CO soap with dual lye.

 

[lsg]

I use up to 30% in my family soap. Some people have skin problems if that much is used; but my family seems to get along fine with that amount.

 

[Dean]

You mean you tried Genny's shampoo bar?
Actually, I find that any non-bubbly soap produces bubbles after three months. However, if you don't want to wait that long, you can make a non-CO soap with dual lye.

Haven't tried the shampoo bar yet. Im intrigued by dual lye and will research. Thanks!

 

[Dean]

You mean you tried Genny's shampoo bar?
Actually, I find that any non-bubbly soap produces bubbles after three months. However, if you don't want to wait that long, you can make a non-CO soap with dual lye.

Did my research. Looks like dual lye is the way to go! Will give it a try on my next batch.