Maroon and Gray

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  1. May 26, 2019 #1

    DWinMadison

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    I live in a part of the US where (American) football rivalries are a way of life. I shared that I made my tiger stripes for Auburn University in my home state. Well, I work with a ton of Mississippi State fans, and they are demanding “equal time.” My challenge is their school colors..thus the title of the post. Maroon is likely a difficult color to achieve in the first place, and I’m guessing it will bleed like a proverbial “struck pig.” All I can thing to do is that side-swirl technique I’ve done lately, leaving most of the soap white and accenting with maroon and gray at about 10% each of the batter. What are my options for cutting back on color bleed. Will sodium lactate help with that? Optionally, I could also do the base color as gray and swirl with maroon and white to make it a bit more interesting.
     
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    Red Brick Oxide becomes almost Maroon, with cure, but it absolutely bleeds like a stuck pig.

    I don't think SL would alter color bleeding, and don't recall ever seeing anything to support that idea.

    Here is an article that addresses how to tackle this problem: https://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-...-pour-soap/bleeding-colors-whats-that-halo-2/

    She states that you need to use non-bleeding colorants. Here is one that might work for maroon: https://www.brambleberry.com/shop-b...orants/pigments/burgundy-pigment/V000600.html

    If you don't want bleed between your maroon and your white, I strongly encourage you to use a non-bleeding colorant. My beautiful ghost swirl with a bleeding colorant (red brick oxide) eventually was a solid mass of only the one color after cure. And it really did migrate fairly quickly, but I did use a lot of the colorant, so perhaps it wouldn't have migrated as fast had I used less.
     
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    I’m not worried about bleed between colors, but onto washcloths and red suds.
     
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    Other than the red brick oxide, which definitely produces pink suds, the only other reds I've used are micas, but I don't like a lot of red in soap, so my experience is limited. I am sure others will come along with a lot more experience with reds and be able to make recommendations of how to avoid bleedy soap suds with darker shades of red.
     
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    I'd call the soap I made with red sandalwood maroon I think. It's not a very good pic though. I'm not home so I can't show you yet how it has faded but it's still a maroon, albeit less saturated.

    Also, I cannot say that whatever red sandalwood you'll find will give you the same color. But it doesn't bleed hehehe
     
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    The closest I have to maroon is Merlot Sparkle Mica from BB. When I did a Google search it says maroon is primarily red with hint of blue (5:1 red:blue) then add a titch of yellow until you get the maroon you want. When I've used the Merlot Sparkle I haven't gotten pink suds but I also don't add it to the whole batter, just part. If you want to avoid maroon staining and suds, try a fun swirl and that should cut down on the potential problem. I think your Mississippi State fans will be pleased!
     
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    Try playing with the color blender on the Nurture soap site. I would play with the various reds with dark purple, dark blue, black. I got a good burgundy/maroon once - couldn't exactly repeat it. I think I used Vibrance or Ruby Red from Nurture and a now discontinued mauve with a bit of black. I'll see if I can find any notes, but it was quite awhile ago so it might take some digging.

    Here's a thread I started when I was wanting to make this color. Not much there but something might help.

    https://www.soapmakingforum.com/threads/how-to-get-a-good-burgandy-color.56192/#post-544141
     
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    Burgundy / maroon is such an elusive color! Once by accident I made a maroonish soap when I mixed red Moroccan clay, red Sandalwood powder and madder root. It took a lot of them to make a decent dark colored soap and I wish I had a picture but it was so long ago. I recently got a bag of American red oxide from Nurture and it is very brickish in color. Not what I consider a real red. I wonder if mixing with a bit of a black or blue colorant would make it burgundy? Hmm I can’t experiment now cuz I’m on the road for vacay but I might try when I come back!
     
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    Maroon, it appears to me, is likely a combo of red, black and a tiny bit of blue. I used 3 parts brick red oxide, 1/2 part black oxide and 1/2 part blue ultramarine, but I don't think it got dark enough to be considered maroon. I'll find out when I cut it tonight. I attempted a side-swirl, but instead of swirling with maroon and gray, I used gray in the main body of the soap and accented with "maroon" and white. It may be a royal mess.
     
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    Can't wait to see your cut soap, Daryl.
     
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    Thanks. This one has me nervous. Gray soap could be really ugly.
     
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    I like it. Classy, like your other soaps :)

    And good on ya to think of mixing in blue. I'm reminded of mixing oil paints hehehe
     
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    I think it came out well! Maybe a bit lighter grey and the maroon will pop more? I think they are conflicting values.
     
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    Thanks. I'm hoping the cure will lighten the grey a bit, but that's likely just wishful thinking.
     

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