Lye not dissolved

Discussion in 'Beginners Soap Making Forum' started by Lunnamoon, Feb 12, 2019.

Help Support Soapmaking Forum by donating:

  1. Feb 12, 2019 #1

    Lunnamoon

    Lunnamoon

    Lunnamoon

    Lunnamoon

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2017
    Messages:
    17
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Ont,canada
    I was making a soap today that contained frozen coffie,frozen coconut milk and frozen beer .I stored my lye a few times as the it looked good as I got my oils to 125 and my lye liquid to 70 .I had modest as I mixed everything I saw little lumps I rubbed the batter around in my finger with gloves on and I could feel the lye baslls.i kept it out side. I am so confused to my the lye disnt dissolve I had it out out side for an hr .I kept stiring. aby ideas to why this happens.tbx
     
  2. Feb 12, 2019 #2

    Dawni

    Dawni

    Dawni

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2018
    Messages:
    2,034
    Likes Received:
    2,614
    Location:
    Philippines
    It happened to me once. I was told it could be lye and milk lumps, because my coconut milk was frozen when I added my lye crystals. The advice I got was to either use a slushy and not completely frozen liquid, or make a concentration of my liquid and add that to trace/after the cook instead.

    You can read that advice here if you want :)
     
  3. Feb 12, 2019 #3

    Lunnamoon

    Lunnamoon

    Lunnamoon

    Lunnamoon

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2017
    Messages:
    17
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Ont,canada
    ah ok awsome thank you so much for tacking the time to leave a comment very appreciate st this time lol i was so upset yesterday .and figured I made this 3x befor waht I do lol
     
  4. Feb 12, 2019 #4

    shunt2011

    shunt2011

    shunt2011

    Staff Member Admin

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2012
    Messages:
    12,737
    Likes Received:
    7,174
    Location:
    Michigan
    The fats in the milks probably saponified or it was too cold and didn't dissolve. That's why many of us do the 50/50 split method. I dissolve my lye in distilled water. I add the liquid difference in milk with powdered added to it to make it full milk and blend that into my oils. Blend well then add my lye/water.
     
    SYT likes this.
  5. Feb 12, 2019 #5

    lsg

    lsg

    lsg

    Staff Member Admin

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2007
    Messages:
    12,134
    Likes Received:
    4,349
    If this happens again, just pour the lye solution through a strainer to separate out the lumps.
     
    Lunnamoon likes this.
  6. Feb 12, 2019 #6

    Lunnamoon

    Lunnamoon

    Lunnamoon

    Lunnamoon

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2017
    Messages:
    17
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Ont,canada
    thank you for your help much appreciated .
    I was out on my balcony table was cold due to snow on it. I made this soap not in the winter befor .
    I had my liquids with the lye at 70 deg and my oils at 125
    can I rewatch this soap ,not sure what to do with it .ill cut it tonight ot tomorrow and post pic . to see if any one can see if there is lye pockets and .
     
    Last edited: Feb 12, 2019
  7. Feb 12, 2019 #7

    geniash

    geniash

    geniash

    IG: @truesoapgeek Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2018
    Messages:
    74
    Likes Received:
    106
    Location:
    CA
    It sounds like you were adding lots of extra liquids - coffee, beer and milk, and those come at the cost of total liquid in soap. Lye needs at least equal amount of water by weight to completely dissolve. So if you have 5 oz of lye, you'll need 5 oz of water to dissolve it. Anything above 50% concentration will need tricks to dissolve. This could be one of the reasons. Good luck!
     
    SYT likes this.
  8. Feb 12, 2019 #8

    cmzaha

    cmzaha

    cmzaha

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2011
    Messages:
    9,487
    Likes Received:
    7,779
    Location:
    Southern California
    You can add your lye to purees and/or any liquid.

    I used to use a lot of purees and always added my lye to frozen purees. Granted some purees do not freeze as hard as ice cubes but they can be pretty hard depending on the sugar content and water in the puree. I would add in the lye in small increments stirring and mixing until I would see no lye on the frozen, then add in more, as the lye dissolves you can add in the lye in larger increments. If you do it this way you should strain the mixture before mixing in your soap because it can be hard to see if there are undissolved lye crystals. By straining the worst that will happen is you will up superfat a titch
     
  9. Feb 12, 2019 #9

    shunt2011

    shunt2011

    shunt2011

    Staff Member Admin

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2012
    Messages:
    12,737
    Likes Received:
    7,174
    Location:
    Michigan
    In her post she’s adding the lye to her required liquids but they are frozen is all.
     
  10. Feb 12, 2019 #10

    Lunnamoon

    Lunnamoon

    Lunnamoon

    Lunnamoon

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2017
    Messages:
    17
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Ont,canada
    lye was waigh out at 337 g of liquid
    I had 110g of beer frozen
    110 g of frozen coconut milk
    115 g frozen coffie

    added 146g of lye over and stired till it melted.
    thank you

    I realised after I had read other comments it should have been a bit slushy

    I had cut open one my small bars and yip small round hard balls .they dont burn eather.so what can I do with this soap crock pot .toss or make liquid soap with it
     

    Attached Files:

    Last edited by a moderator: Feb 13, 2019
  11. Feb 12, 2019 #11

    Dawni

    Dawni

    Dawni

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2018
    Messages:
    2,034
    Likes Received:
    2,614
    Location:
    Philippines
    Wow that's a lot.. Would you be willing to do smaller batches for tests? Big batches are a big waste if they don't turn out ok. Maybe in the range of 1-2lbs?
     
    Lunnamoon likes this.
  12. Feb 12, 2019 #12

    Lunnamoon

    Lunnamoon

    Lunnamoon

    Lunnamoon

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2017
    Messages:
    17
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Ont,canada
    this is a 2 lb batch I made this soap a few time just this to.e it didnt turn out :(
     

    Attached Files:

  13. Feb 13, 2019 #13

    shunt2011

    shunt2011

    shunt2011

    Staff Member Admin

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2012
    Messages:
    12,737
    Likes Received:
    7,174
    Location:
    Michigan
    That’s still too much soap for a beginner. Especially if you have to toss it. If your soap has bits of lye I personally would toss it. You can leave it for awhile and then zap test it bit I don’t think I’d risk it. You won’t be able to rebatch it and get any lye bits dissolved.
     
  14. Feb 13, 2019 #14

    Lunnamoon

    Lunnamoon

    Lunnamoon

    Lunnamoon

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2017
    Messages:
    17
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Ont,canada
    thanks lol this is not my 1st batch of soap iv been soaping for 2 +year ,know and this is the 1st time I have had this happen. So far I my journey of making soap.thanks .I made this soap last summer a few times introducing it to my line and didnt have a problem. this is my 1st time making this soap in the WINTER and ran in to this problem. I had made 3 batches this week with out milk that turned out great .thank you.
     
    Last edited: Feb 13, 2019
  15. Feb 13, 2019 #15

    shunt2011

    shunt2011

    shunt2011

    Staff Member Admin

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2012
    Messages:
    12,737
    Likes Received:
    7,174
    Location:
    Michigan
    Then you may want to post in the regular lye forum instead of the beginners. That’s why I thought you were new. Also, kind of a beginners error. Sorry I was trying to help. Won’t happen again.
     
  16. Feb 13, 2019 #16

    Dawni

    Dawni

    Dawni

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2018
    Messages:
    2,034
    Likes Received:
    2,614
    Location:
    Philippines
    I also thought you were new like me, sorry :cool:
     
  17. Feb 13, 2019 #17

    Lunnamoon

    Lunnamoon

    Lunnamoon

    Lunnamoon

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2017
    Messages:
    17
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Ont,canada
    it's all good.

    it's all good I looked on line didnt read just looked for people who had the same problem. I didnt have the intention to start any fight. I am sorry for this
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Feb 13, 2019
    shunt2011 likes this.

Share This Page