Liquid Laundry Soap Questions

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  1. Feb 12, 2020 #1

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    I ran out of sodium hydroxide and will not get the new order in until Friday. :(

    I bought some potassium hydroxide that I haven't used yet, so I can still make soap. :)

    Will be making liquid laundry soap tonight with 100% CO, 0% SF, 3:1 ratio and 90% lye purity. This is based on several threads I found regarding liquid laundry soap.

    What I'm not sure about is additives and didn't find in any of the threads: Do I still need to add citric acid and sodium gluconate to the water before adding the lye? Also, what about a preservative? Is the high pH enough to ward off any microbials after dilution? TIA for any help. :)
     
  2. Feb 13, 2020 #2

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    Nevermind, made the soap and used both CA and SG. Cooking it now. The transition to "hard" trace was really cool. Even though I expected it to happen after watching videos it was still somewhat surprising. :)
     
  3. Feb 15, 2020 #3

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    You should not need any preservatives as long as you do not add "food" for the yuckies to grow on during dilution. No sugar, honey, milk, etc. It's ok if you add them to the water before the lye, but once saponification is done, no more foods.

    I am not at all sure why you thought you needed citric acid. Citric acid is intended to bring the pH down in a lye heavy soap. And since your's was intended to be 0%, and I presume you used a lye calculator, you had no need to use CA at all.

    I have hard water, so I totally understand the need for a chelating agent. I use tetrasodium EDTA in all of my soaps.
     
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    Good to know. Thanks :)

    I use soap makers friend calc and it compensates for the CA. I started using CA for the chelating factor, not for pH. I just recently got my order in for Sodium Gluconate and the liquid soap was the first time I used it. Based on what I found last night, I only need one or the other. Sodium Gluconate and/or Citric Acid replaces EDTA.

    These threads address both CA and SG for chelating:
    https://www.soapmakingforum.com/threads/sodium-gluconate.69601/
    https://www.soapmakingforum.com/threads/citric-acid-as-a-chelator.56643/ (post #3)
     
  5. Feb 21, 2020 at 12:30 PM #5

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    It's fine, I just didn't get why you used it. And since I am not on here all the time any more (life just gets in the way), I wasn't sure what your soaping experience was. You haven't been a member that long, so I wrongfully assumed inexperience and ignorance. I apologize. Too many people read the old liquid soap books and follow instructions blindly.
     
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    LOL, I understand. I'm one who follows nothing blindly. Lots and lots of research. :)

    We have very hard water in Colorado. The water supply for the the south end of the Denver area comes almost exclusively from the mountains, so lots and lots of minerals. I have 3 kids in the south end of the Denver area and their water supply is from a natural source coming down out of the hills. So I try to make my soaps with that in mind. :)
     
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    I live in DFW. My first experience in all of my 57 years dealing with hard water. I am not a fan.
     
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    LOL, neither am I! :)
    For the last 6 months I've had a water softener. First time in my life with soft water! It's amazing! :)
     
  9. Feb 22, 2020 at 9:24 PM #9

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    Wow, you got Susie answering your thread. Lucky you (she knows her stuff). :D
     
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    I always feel lucky when people answer my questions. Especially those that have been around the forum for a long while. I really value all the experience here and the help/advice. :)

    It's always very much appreciated! :)
     

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