greeting . In the soap calculator there is a number for the application of pine tar oil. In our country there is only tar oil, juniper plant. We do not have pine tar oil. How do I calculate the number of oil for the juniper's tar oil?
(long sigh) Both pine and juniper tar are produced by the high temperature carbonization of of the respective woods in anoxic conditions. In addition, pine and juniper share the same order and are pretty similar when it comes to sap, hardness, etc..The OP doesn't have pine tar, they have juniper tar which is completely different from pine.
juniper tar and essential oil are completely different products. It is a brown, thick, sticky substance from the wood. Pine tar actually is produced in the USA to help horse hoof care. Juniper essential oil is made from the berry or needle.Jamal, is juniper tar oil different from juniper Essential Oil? I find it listed as an Essential Oil and used in many items such as soap, skin care products, for psoriasis, and so forth. Lush uses it in at least one of their products, in fact.
How is it available in Iraq? Rather what does it look like? Does it look like a thick sticky substance (like tar) or does it look like an oil?
Anyway, I find that it (Juniper) is also called Cade in some other countries and also found it (Juniper Tar Oil) as Juniperus Oxyedrus Wood Tar (which I would expect to look like our pine tar looks - thick, sticky, somewhat similar to tar), but that is also the INCI name for the Essential Oil, so I am still unsure.
Maybe the alternate names would help lead to some information about a Safety Data Sheet, where one may find a saponification value. (Not always, but sometimes.) But if it's an Essential Oil, then it doesn't need to be listed in a lye calculator as an oil. And so far, that's all I am finding it as, an E.O.
We know that tar is different from essential oil. However, we are dealing with a language barrier, since most of us can't read the container of juniper oil. Which is why we're asking jamal to describe it to us.juniper tar and essential oil are completely different products. It is a brown, thick, sticky substance from the wood. Pine tar actually is produced in the USA to help horse hoof care. Juniper essential oil is made from the berry or needle.
Cade is a species of juniper.
Pine Tar, lye calc only no FA
pine tar has a SAP value and is in calculators. It is real low and similar to beeswax and jojoba oil.I remember from my pine tar soap making days, pine tar is treated as an additive, not a fat, because it doesn't contain fatty acids, therefore it has no SAP value.
Sure enough, when I checked SoapCalc it is listed as:
View attachment 38436 ( I apologize in advance if I sound condescending. Just trying to be helpful. )