I live in California specifically the Bay Area.Where in the world do you live? We're an international bunch.
I think it's just because some EVOO is green and some isn'tThe EV OO I buy from Costco is greenish in color, but the bul EV OO I bought from a soaping supplier isn't, so does that mean the EV OO from Costco is pomace?
I've tried contacting Californian olive growers but they all responded by saying they only produce EVOO and that they give dried pomace to livestock instead of processing it. I've tried looking for bigger olive operations in California but I have difficulty finding any. As for what makes the soaps green, I'm fairly certain it's crude pomace olive oil as I've seen in videos and soapmaker's websites that big-scale soap producers use crude pomace which in turn makes their olive soap green. Although the soap is green, it does slightly fade away but it still keeps some of its green color.I wonder how long the green lasts. I've made Castile without any added color using OO that looks dark to me, but the soap is not green.
Since you live in the SF Bay Area, you have access to so many stores where you can go and ask the buyers (those who choose what the store will buy to stock the shelves) if they carry what you want, should you not find it on the shelves. Plus you have the whole California Olive industry at your disposal.
Here is one example of an unrefined California OO that you can purchase. I am sure there are many more, but you may have to contact the OO manufacturers for more information.
I also went to the Papoutsani website and saw that they say the don't use artificial colorants. That does not mean they don't use natural colorants. I don't know the rules about listing colorants on soaps in Greece.
My guess is that they do use some sort of naturally occurring colorants, but without further research and actually working for them, I guess I cannot know this for sure. I just don't believe a 100% Olive Oil soap without additional colorants is going to be that shade of green no matter what OO you buy or how soon you sell it after it was made. And as we all know, it needs a good long cure, during which time the color tends to fade anyway with most natural colorants. So I wonder which one they are using (if they are using one) and if it lasts the life of the bar. So far I haven't found one that stays green as it ages.
I think the laurel berry oil makes the soap even more green than it would otherwise be. But there are cases where companies like Patounis have a Castille soap that is green but the outside does eventually turn golden with the inside staying green.Could it possibly be an Aleppo soap that also uses Laurel Berry Oil? Those are green.
Yes you are right sorry that is what i meant. Boil it for days - the old traditional method. I was talking to an Italian whose grandmother used to use it to make soap. It didn't come out green, though, it was cream.You would probably have to use the boiled method.
With modern high purity lye, it can be done in 4-8 hours but I'm not sure if cooking the soap for more will improve the quality.Yes you are right sorry that is what i meant. Boil it for days - the old traditional method. I was talking to an Italian whose grandmother used to use it to make soap. It didn't come out green, though, it was cream.
I'm trying to get crude pomace olive oil to truly see if it makes the resulting soap green. With many producers of soap using it and adding no colorants and their soap being green, I'm inclined to believe it will make the soap green.My pure castille with Pomace is nowhere near green. It's just off white.
I made a soap with some hemp oil, and it was much darker green in the oil mix and after trace, so I thought I'd get a nice green soap. Nope, after gel it was off white.
I also made an Aleppo with 20% Laurel and 80% pomace, sort of light tan.
Other than colorants or maybe hot process, I can't think of a way to get a green soap.