Effects of additives on orange EO scent retention

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Sorry if I wasn’t clear enough. The soap made without an additive smells just like the others, except that the soap made with the calendula powder also smells a little like straw.

@Peachy Clean Soap my orange EO is 6x from Camden Grey in Florida.
Wow, that’s great. I had 2 soaps that I experimented with last year. I added Blood Orange essential oil to both, but kaolin clay to one (I marinated the essential oil in the clay for about an hour - usually I like to marinate overnight). The one that was marinated with the clay smelled great 6 weeks later and the soap with no clay had literally no scent 6 weeks later.
 

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@linne1gi and @dibbles

Sorry if I wasn’t clear enough. The soap made without an additive smells just like the others, except that the soap made with the calendula powder also smells a little like straw.
So, it would seem, then, that the jury is still out on whether or not the additives actually help. I have some calendula powder to use in a soap with my home grown calendula petals and infused oil, so good to know about the straw smell. I'll have to pick something to compliment that.
 
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So, it would seem, then, that the jury is still out on whether or not the additives actually help. I have some calendula powder to use in a soap with my home grown calendula petals and infused oil, so good to know about the straw smell. I'll have to pick something to compliment that.
For my soaps, we won’t know until the orange scent is gone. When I decided to use only 3% it seemed like a high bar to set for an orange eo. So far, so good.

I’ve used calendula petals before and never noticed a scent. Don’t forget that for this round of testing, the additives ended up at 4 tsp ppo, plus the petals were blitzed in a food processor and were fairly fine.

@linne1gi I haven’t used blood orange eo, but haven’t had any luck with straight orange eo hanging around.
 

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@Mobjack Bay - I haven't noticed a smell with calendula petals either. I was referring to the calendula powder, which I haven't used before but plan to add to at least part of my batch. When I get around to making it. The oil has been infusing for a month now, so it's ready when I am.

edit: I went back and read and what you are calling calendula powder in post #20 is ground calendula petals. I think the powder I have is made from the whole flower, not just the petals. But you did also mention a slight straw smell in that one.
 
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@Mobjack Bay - I haven't noticed a smell with calendula petals either. I was referring to the calendula powder, which I haven't used before but plan to add to at least part of my batch. When I get around to making it. The oil has been infusing for a month now, so it's ready when I am.

edit: I went back and read and what you are calling calendula powder in post #20 is ground calendula petals. I think the powder I have is made from the whole flower, not just the petals. But you did also mention a slight straw smell in that one.
I have a bag of petals, a bag of dried flowers and I’m pretty sure I still have a container of the powder I made from calendula petals. I guess a sniff test of those is on my list of to-dos! I only use the whole dried flowers when I’m making infused oil for balms.
 
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Wow, that’s great. I had 2 soaps that I experimented with last year. I added Blood Orange essential oil to both, but kaolin clay to one (I marinated the essential oil in the clay for about an hour - usually I like to marinate overnight). The one that was marinated with the clay smelled great 6 weeks later and the soap with no clay had literally no scent 6 weeks later.
Wow' gotta try your magic bullet 😉👍🏼🧼
 

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I have a bag of petals, a bag of dried flowers and I’m pretty sure I still have a container of the powder I made from calendula petals. I guess a sniff test of those is on my list of to-dos! I only use the whole dried flowers when I’m making infused oil for balms.
Sorry to add to your to do list 😝
 
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Update on the soaps (made on January 4, 2021): After multiple rounds of sniffing, I am possibly/wishfully detecting a very faint orange scent in all of them, including the one with no additives. My second tester thinks they smell like wax, except for the one with calendula powder, which she thinks smells like an old attic! I did not share with her that the base hard fat is tallow. On a more positve note, the colors all look good and there’s no sign of DOS in any of them.
 
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I’m back with a 1-year update on these soaps. When I took them out of storage a couple of weeks ago I couldn’t convince myself that I could smell any orange at all, so I decided I would do a quick lather test. I promptly got distracted and just lathered up today. The best news of all is that I can smell orange in all of them. It’s light, but it’s there. I’m not noticing big differences in lathering among the soaps based on the powdery additives (@ 4 tsp ppo) or in comparison with the soap that has no additives. All but two of them feel smooth in the hand when lathering up. The one with the calendula powder feels a little textured but in a nice way. The one with the French green clay feels a tiny bit scratchy. I’ve never used that much green clay in a soap before and would not go that high in a future soap based on this test soap. There’s also no sign of DOS in any of the soaps. I don’t have my notes handy, but it’s likely that I likely used citric acid as a chelator.
 

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