Conditioner Bar Melts

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  1. Oct 11, 2018 #1

    viviennemnl

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    Hey,
    I am new in this forum, but I came here to hopefully get help with our conditioner bar problem. They are melting ! We live in the Philippines, so it is very humid and hot, but our shampoo bars have no problem with that . But for some reason our conditioner bars are kinda soft and keep on melting by just storing them in the room.
    The recipe is :

    Cocoa Butter 30.00%
    Shea Butter 7.00%
    BTMS-50 35.00%
    Cetyl Alcohol 20.00%
    Coconut Oil 8.00%
    D-Panthenol
    Rosemary Essential Oil
    Orange Essential Oil

    Somebody any idea what we could change / add to make them more resistent to heat and/or probably harder ?!
    Thank you so much already, hope someone knows a solution to this :)

    Thanks, Viv
     
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    I think the only way to really prevent melting would be to increase the BTMS amount.
     
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    Your recipe is 45% fats that melt at warm room temperatures. Shea melts around 90F, cocoa around 100F, and coconut around 75F. I'd say that's a likely reason why your product is soft and melty. I agree with Cellador. You need to increase the melt temperature by increasing the BTMS or possibly the cetyl alcohol.
     
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    thank you guys for your suggestions to increase the btms amount. any idea what should be the min. % to keep it from melting? thank you @Cellador and @DeeAnna :)
     
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    Is 92 degree coconut oil available where you are? That might be a way to keep the same recipe but make it less melty.
     
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    thanks but, unfortunately not. virgin coconut oil only...
     
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    Just popping in quickly to thank lsg for the recipe link - I've been looking for one to try! And best of luck to you, Vivien :)
     

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