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MrsSpaceship
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Jackeline,
I'm at 4,327 feet above sea level (I Googled it :grin
and have had no such issues, I don't believe that elevation has any affect on your soap (someone please correct me if I'm wrong). Well, it may affect cook time in HP but I think that's it.
I made THIS recipe and found it to be quite slow tracing. If you look through the website, you'll find they probably have a basic recipe that is specifically for swirling that would give you the time you're wanting (look for recipes with more liquid oils).
Are you possibly bringing your soap to a heavy trace? The most common recommendation is to just bring things to just past emulsification so your batter is very fluid when you begin to work. Pre-disperse your colorants (some also sift them so there's no lumps) so you just have to use a short burst with your SB to make sure their incorporated.
I'd look through the SoapQueen site, there's a lot of good information.
Edit: Sorry Shunt, I must have been typing diligently away and not seen your comment about a new thread.
I'm at 4,327 feet above sea level (I Googled it :grin
and have had no such issues, I don't believe that elevation has any affect on your soap (someone please correct me if I'm wrong). Well, it may affect cook time in HP but I think that's it. I made THIS recipe and found it to be quite slow tracing. If you look through the website, you'll find they probably have a basic recipe that is specifically for swirling that would give you the time you're wanting (look for recipes with more liquid oils).
Are you possibly bringing your soap to a heavy trace? The most common recommendation is to just bring things to just past emulsification so your batter is very fluid when you begin to work. Pre-disperse your colorants (some also sift them so there's no lumps) so you just have to use a short burst with your SB to make sure their incorporated.
I'd look through the SoapQueen site, there's a lot of good information.
Edit: Sorry Shunt, I must have been typing diligently away and not seen your comment about a new thread.
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not_ally
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Jackeline, just to maximize answers on your post, I think you should follow Shunt's advice to start a new one in the beginner's thread. I'm sure you will get lots of responses and information. Ditto on the welcome!
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The Efficacious Gentleman
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As above, but also letting us know what recipes you have used before that you like, what oils you can buy and so on - no point people suggesting something that you already have tried or can't actually buy
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Ok...you are right...thanks again!
Ok...I can get here coconut oil, Palm
Oil, olive oil, sunflower oil, castor oil ,
Rice bran oil , canola oil....I guess that's just about it
Of course my favorite recepies are made with olive oil, castor , Palm and coconut...
You say I need more liquid oils ?
Ok...I can get here coconut oil, Palm
Oil, olive oil, sunflower oil, castor oil ,
Rice bran oil , canola oil....I guess that's just about it
Of course my favorite recepies are made with olive oil, castor , Palm and coconut...
You say I need more liquid oils ?
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The Efficacious Gentleman
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What sort of % are you using? Lye solution, additives, that sort of thing. What recipe is the fastest and which is more in the direction that you are looking for? Try to be specific with the recipes, how much of each oil and so on.
Jackeline - the link that MrsSpaceship posted for you (click on the word "Here" in her post) is this one: http://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/mothers-day-tribute-soap-2/.
not_ally
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Jacqueline, I agree w/Mrs. S on the altitude level. I used to live at 7500 sft above, and I can't think of why anything there would have effected soaping unless you are using the oven (it did make a diff for baking). Have you soaped elsewhere using the same recipe/process and noticed a difference?
Also, can you find lard/manteca? That is the favorite soaping oil for many of us.
ETA: I take it back! I just read this active thread, and one of the posters says there *is* a difference w/altitude, I don't know what exactly, though. You might want to post on it and ask her ....
http://www.soapmakingforum.com/showthread.php?t=55314&page=3
Also, can you find lard/manteca? That is the favorite soaping oil for many of us.
ETA: I take it back! I just read this active thread, and one of the posters says there *is* a difference w/altitude, I don't know what exactly, though. You might want to post on it and ask her ....
http://www.soapmakingforum.com/showthread.php?t=55314&page=3
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The Efficacious Gentleman
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Well between the goggles, long sleeves and sensible shoes there isn't much to work with, but I think I still look rather dashing when I soap
snappyllama
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I'm at 8400 feet and cannot compare it to CP/HP soaping at lower elevations though I can say that things do evaporate much faster than at sea level (M&P gets a skin incredibly fast - though that might be due to the drier climate).
Take a look at the slow-tracing recipe threads folks already mentioned... If you can use lard instead of palm - that's a big help. Try reducing the stick-blending you're doing. I spend *a lot* less time with it turned on than any of the videos I've watched. I normally end up hand stirring with it, giving it few pulses, then hand stirring until my batter is just emulsified. It only takes a couple of minutes. If you're using a FO, add that to your oils ahead of time so you won't need to stick blend it in later. I also soap around 90ish (or less) and use a 30% lye concentration... so I do manage to do it with a water discount.
Take a look at the slow-tracing recipe threads folks already mentioned... If you can use lard instead of palm - that's a big help. Try reducing the stick-blending you're doing. I spend *a lot* less time with it turned on than any of the videos I've watched. I normally end up hand stirring with it, giving it few pulses, then hand stirring until my batter is just emulsified. It only takes a couple of minutes. If you're using a FO, add that to your oils ahead of time so you won't need to stick blend it in later. I also soap around 90ish (or less) and use a 30% lye concentration... so I do manage to do it with a water discount.
The Efficacious Gentleman
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LOL Effy..being your reg awesome self today I see
It was the pimms and lemonade talking!
I do find the sea-level topic interesting. The pressure of course causes molecules to behave differently in some ways (boiling point of water, for example) so the interaction of lye and oils could be impacted
