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Hello dear soap makers
My son has a severe eczema and I recently received a gift for my son.

It is very thankful but, the soap doesn't mention any ingredients list, just says something like this soap is good for several skin conditions.

So I went into their website to find out more about the ingredients, hmmm...
But their website doesn't have anything about ingredients, and saying the owner started making soaps for her family using vitamin water, and skin conditions got so better, bla bla bla.

I want to ask you that if this is all possible for a soap? Isn't this against FDA regulations?

To be honest, I think they are using MP soap base, and just add some herbal additives.

If what they clam is true and it is possible to make a soap with some active ingredient, like a drug for skin condition, can anyone tell me how to achieve that? Maybe I can add... 5-10%? Of herbal powder?

Even with hot process soaps, I think soaps are soaps. Hmmm... I am not sure what makes this local soap maker believe her soaps can cure skin diseases. If so, I would love to know.

Thank you in advance.
I make an all vegan bar with essential oil’s . If you like I can send you a sample size to you to try at no cost to you. I will send all ingredients as well. Cheers!
 

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In the US, afaik, the sale takes place where the goods physically reside at the time of the sale.

Yes and no. As an example Rustic Ecentuals is in Ohio, Ohio has sales tax. I live in Oregon, Oregon does not have sales tax. When I order from RE I am not charged sales tax because Oregon is the location of the 'end user'. Now if I went to Ohio and purchased or picked up my order, I would have to pay sales tax because that is where I am at time.

Unless they have a physical store stateside or do a big % of their sales in the US, they're not doing business here.

Not strictly true. Even though I don't have a store in the UK and/or only sell a few bars a year in the UK...I'm still "doing business" in the UK and thus would be subject to all the rules and regulations for selling soap in the UK.

I think it's @Susie who says it's not what's IN the soap that's helped her skin troubles ... it's what's NOT in the soap that makes the difference for her.

I don't have skin problems, but I do have to say I think she's on to something here.

I got into soap making because of Goat Milk Soap. I suffered from dry skin for years and then I was given some GMS and it was like a miracle and all I bought was GMS for years. Then the old lady that made the soap retired and I didn't like any of the options the new gal made so I went back to commercial soap and big bottles of moisturizer. Then I started making soap 2 1/2 years ago...just Regular Soap since I didn't yet know how to make GMS and...my dry skin problem went away. So it begs the question...does goat milk REALLY make a difference? What is goat milk but fat, sugar and water? And Coconut Milk...it's just shredded coconut pureed in water and then strained.

Is it what is IN our soap that makes it better for our skin or what ISN'T our soap?
 
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I agree with @TheGecko about what's not in the soap. I gave out some ugly bars at a physical therapy facility where I volunteer. One of the moms came back and asked me for more soap because it helped her child's eczema so much. It was not a particularly gentle bar. I think some people's skin objects to the detergents found in most commercially sold soap. It was a mostly lard soap, cause I love lard...
 
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Yes and no. As an example Rustic Ecentuals is in Ohio, Ohio has sales tax. I live in Oregon, Oregon does not have sales tax. When I order from RE I am not charged sales tax because Oregon is the location of the 'end user'. Now if I went to Ohio and purchased or picked up my order, I would have to pay sales tax because that is where I am at time.



Not strictly true. Even though I don't have a store in the UK and/or only sell a few bars a year in the UK...I'm still "doing business" in the UK and thus would be subject to all the rules and regulations for selling soap in the UK.



I got into soap making because of Goat Milk Soap. I suffered from dry skin for years and then I was given some GMS and it was like a miracle and all I bought was GMS for years. Then the old lady that made the soap retired and I didn't like any of the options the new gal made so I went back to commercial soap and big bottles of moisturizer. Then I started making soap 2 1/2 years ago...just Regular Soap since I didn't yet know how to make GMS and...my dry skin problem went away. So it begs the question...does goat milk REALLY make a difference? What is goat milk but fat, sugar and water? And Coconut Milk...it's just shredded coconut pureed in water and then strained.

Is it what is IN our soap that makes it better for our skin or what ISN'T our soap?

For me, it is definitely what's NOT in the soap. Other than needing to stay away from high amounts of CO, I have made almost every kind of soap there is with good results. I have blind tested all of the major kinds of soaps on my willing family (who also have eczema) and every one agreed that we all like high lard better than anything else. As it was cheaper than anything else, I happily agreed. We're even all able to use FOs and colorants in the soap and still no eczema. I don't use neem oil, I don't use anything else deemed "miracle oils". Just soap from lard, CO, OO, and castor oil seems to do the trick.
 

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My husband has both eczema and psoriasis. The soaps that work best for him are high lard, low CO, a bit of neem oil, and some castor oil. I also add colloidal oats, but make sure that agrees with your son's skin before trying it. Here's the latest iteration of the recipe I typically make for him:

65% lard
15% CO
15% neem oil
5% castor oil
1 T ppo colloidal oats
1 T ppo powdered goat milk
Aloe vera juice as 100% of water

This is what works for him after a fair amount of experimenting. I'd encourage you to start with a 100% lard soap for your son, with no color, fragrance, or other additives. Let them cure at least 8 weeks. You won't have abundant lather; it will be more like a creamy lotion.

Whatever route you go, I hope you do find something that works for your son!
Wow that is great recipe! I honestly never tried lard before, I'm afraid of the smell of animal fats, but I should definitely try it before the year ends. Thank you so much for your recipe, I will try it for my two little babies

Where can I get good quality, deordorized, refined lard in CA, hahaha

I make an all vegan bar with essential oil’s . If you like I can send you a sample size to you to try at no cost to you. I will send all ingredients as well. Cheers!

Oh wow. I want to try them of course! I only used Lavender essential oils to my soaps but I don't really see a big difference yet hmm. Oh but it might be too expensive to ship though! Thank you for your kindness haha.
 
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@sophiayun If you want to start by trying a small quantity of lard, Walmart carries several sizes, usually anywhere from an 8oz "brick" to a 4lb pail. Small jars of organic lard are also sold at some Trader Joe's, and most Whole Foods and Natural Grocers. For soap, I'd stick with the less expensive stuff from Walmart. Let us know how it turns out!
 

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@AliOop Oh thank you! I was searching in Amazon, wow these lards are very expensive online. I will double check with Target and Walmart. Sure I will post my first lard soap and how it feels!! haha XD already excited to try new ingredients
 

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I've shared this before but I'll bore readers again. I got into making cold process soap because it was a creative outlet. I was really pleasantly surprised that my skin has never been healthier. I've been rashy all my life (not serious but irritating as all get out) and tried every over the counter and prescription lotions and potions. I used to apply a prescription several times per day -- and now I need it several times per year.

My skin improved even more once I started making lotion bars too.
May I ask if your skin is also a lover of the lard? Does your skin seem to “like” one oil more than others?
 

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I soap with lard frequently and even my 100% lard unscented soaps are odor free. I use the Armour brand lard I buy at Walmart.
@AliOop Oh thank you! I was searching in Amazon, wow these lards are very expensive online. I will double check with Target and Walmart. Sure I will post my first lard soap and how it feels!! haha XD already excited to try new ingredients
Our neighboring Walmart’s have drastically reduced the size of the lard section the past month or so but as @AliOop mentioned they always always have Armor lard in various sizes. 😁
 
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May I ask if your skin is also a lover of the lard? Does your skin seem to “like” one oil more than others?
Hey there, @LynetteO . I have not used homemade soap made with animal fats. Not a judgment or anything, I just started with non-animal products and am always perfecting that recipe. Using my soap, I have not pinpointed a particular oil. I'll experiment from time to time -- but by the time I actually use the soap, I can't remember which factor I tweaked! I did notice a big difference since I started adding sugar -- lovin' the lather action. Not bragging but I really love washing with my soap, it's a simple pleasure in my day.
Un-saponified soap is another matter. Love love love meadowfoam seed oil -- I could fill a bathtub with that stuff. Also like jojoba when I have the $ to buy it.
 

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