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Hello cream soapers.

I stumbled on this thread and though it's a quite an old one and probably its originator not active here, I would like to ask if any of you would like to share a photo of your cream cured soap in its pump bottle, and possibly a photo of its lather in the hands.

Or has cream soap moved to another thread?

It would be lovely to know and see more.
I'm a beginner and haven't yet attempted to cream soap.
Thank you and happy labour day
 

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Well, I suspect that will pose at least as many questions as it answers…

From the skin feel when cleaning the tools, I was less than impressed. In line with what I already noted earlier of my ambivalent relationship with high-stearic soaps. But I won't pass a definite judgment until it has got at least a few weeks of chance to cure…

ETA: @Zany_in_CO I'm already trying hard to combine as many unknowns as possible at once into one project (Lindy recipe, fatty acid profile forgery, grocery store challenge, canola wax, false trace, glycerol/glycol swap), to minimise the number of “first times” 🤪

The good thing about liquid/cream soap is that you don't “start” using it like a soap bar, and (at least in theory) there is no difference between the first and the last squeeze. It's easily possible to scoop out a bit every month or so – the difficult part is remembering this and taking notes that are reliable and understandable after several months.
 
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I stumbled on this thread and though it's a quite an old one and probably its originator not active here,
True. Lindy hasn't been active since 2015.
I would like to ask if any of you would like to share a photo of your cream cured soap in its pump bottle, and possibly a photo of its lather in the hands.
Catherine Failor wrote both the book on Liquid Soapmaking (1999) and Cream Soap (2001). Liquid Soapmaking took off big time! On the other hand, very few soapers made cream soap. I, for one, was just never that interested in it. As a result, there is very little information available about the technique. :(
I'm a beginner and haven't yet attempted to cream soap.
I don't want to dampen your enthusiasm, but it is an advanced technique and I advise you to put it on the back burner for now. It would be best to read what I wrote earler in this thread here.
 

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True. Lindy hasn't been active since 2015.

Catherine Failor wrote both the book on Liquid Soapmaking (1999) and Cream Soap (2001). Liquid Soapmaking took off big time! On the other hand, very few soapers made cream soap. I, for one, was just never that interested in it. As a result, there is very little information available about the technique. :(

I don't want to dampen your enthusiasm, but it is an advanced technique and I advise you to put it on the back burner for now. It would be best to read what I wrote earler in this thread here.
Thank you Zany. I had read that comment and still found a sparkle of self confidence in attempting.... I will now follow your suggestion and keep o reading about cream soap, and maybe even look for Catherine Failor's books.
 

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Thank you Zany. I had read that comment and still found a sparkle of self confidence in attempting.... I will now follow your suggestion and keep o reading about cream soap, and maybe even look for Catherine Failor's books.
My pleasure, Albertina.
I posted a link to Failor's book on making cream soap earlier in this thread. Here is the link. NOTE: Be prepared to be shocked. I was! :eek:
 

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As a result, there is very little information available about the technique. :(


Hi Zany in CO. Every time I pop in here and see your name I have to smile. I remember you so well from the early Yahoo soapmaking groups. Then everything sorta went to Facebook and I lost touch with you. You might remember Gretchen Moritz from those early days as well. She stays pretty active on the Facebook Group "Cream Soapmakers Delight" and helps a lot of people through the process.

Albertina: If you're going to attempt the Cream Soap, you might consider joining that Facebook Group for support because there are more recent options that can be applied to that process...such as low stearic acid and stearic acid-free formulas.
 

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you might consider joining that Facebook Group for support because there are more recent options that can be applied to that process...such as low stearic acid and stearic acid-free formulas.
I agree with @Albertina --- Great advice! Thank you!
The Failor book... I'll look for another source rather than amazon since it is quoted 730 USD.
Haha. Crazy, yes? I just wish I had the presence of forethought to buy that book when it was readily available. :oops:
 

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Awesome tutorial 😍 I’m about to buy what I need to make this. But I have a question, can I get this recipe written in percents? Or can somebody help me transferring it to percents? That way it’s easier to scale it up and down.
 

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Awesome tutorial 😍 I’m about to buy what I need to make this. But I have a question, can I get this recipe written in percents? Or can somebody help me transferring it to percents? That way it’s easier to scale it up and down.
Just use the Soapmaking Friend Calculator associated with this site. However, as a note of warning, it won't give you the exact amount of percentages as associated with the recipe at the beginning of this thread. Cream soap making is an entirely different process, bucking against the "norms" most soap makers have associated with for years regarding lye & water percentages, oils and glycerin, etc.
I am not trying to be negative here, but it is best for you to explore the recipe and percentages yourself. You will learn a lot more that way than if one of the members here does it for you. Personally, I had to do the conversions myself, which is a somewhat lengthy and involved process, but I learned that cream soap making is a whole different ball game, so to speak. One must throw "convention" out the window.

To use a famous saying from one of the greatest TV shows during The Golden Era of Television. since it is very applicable to the jump from conventional HP & CP soap making:

“You unlock this door with the key of imagination. Beyond it is another dimension: a dimension of sound, a dimension of sight, a dimension of mind. You’re moving into a land of both shadow and substance, of things and ideas. You’ve just crossed over into… the Twilight Zone.”
― Rod Serling, The Twilight Zone
 
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Welcome to the Wonderful World of Soapmaking! When you have time, please go to the Introduction Forum and tell us a little about yourself, as much as you care to share, but especially about your soapmaking experience. That will better help us to help you when needed. ;) :thumbs:

I’m about to buy what I need to make this.
If you've never made basic soap before, I suggest you start there. Cream soap is an advanced technique more suited to experienced soapmakers. Even at that, there are few SMF members knowledgable about making cream soap. It's really not very popular. :(
 
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