Max % of HO oils?

Obsidian · Jul 25, 2017

Due to the increasing price of OO, I'm looking into different kinds of HO oils to use in its place. I already know avocado is ok at the % I use but what about sunflower or safflower? I generally only use 20-25%, think this will be ok?

Tried a new recipe today, hopefully it will be a good one. I'm using dual lye.

lard 60%
HO Safflower 20%
coconut oil 15%
castor 5%

I'd like to try HO sunflower but I can't find it local.

dixiedragon · Jul 25, 2017

I do about 10% OO, 10% HO Rice Bran and 10% HO Sunflower.

BrewerGeorge · Jul 25, 2017

I have a trial of 25% HO safflower curing. It's actually higher in oleic than olive oil. I suspect it will completely replace olive in all my soaps as soon as it's cured enough to evaluate.

DeeAnna · Jul 25, 2017

I have been using HO sunflower at 25% to 30% in bath bars. I have used HO safflower in similar percentages. Both have worked well for me -- I'd recommend either one in a heartbeat. I've used olive a handful of times, and I'd say HO sun/saff bring roughly the same characteristics to soap, as compared with olive.

HO sunflower has the edge for me because a small amount of sunflower is grown locally, and safflower is not, as far as I know. So I feel by using HO sunflower that I'm doing a tiny bit to support midwestern farmers who grow alternative crops. I can find HO sunflower in local groceries, especially the "whole foods" co-op type stores.

I've made a 70% HO sunflower, 30% avocado soap for use when I wet-felt. It's plenty goopy and slimy, yet kind to the hands -- just what a wet felter wants!

dibbles · Jul 25, 2017

I get my HO sunflower oil at Trader Joe's. The price is reasonable. It is pretty expensive in my grocery store - they only carry a brand in a fancy bottle.

Obsidian · Jul 25, 2017

Thanks everyone, sounds like this should work just fine.

cmzaha · Jul 25, 2017

As many probably know I am not fond of OO but do use HO Sunflower and Canola at 20-25%

Obsidian · Jul 25, 2017

What kind of a difference do you see between oo and sunflower?

I don't care for oo either but I really don't notice a difference when I replaced it with avocado.

Maybe I should make a 100% safflower batch so I can see for myself.

KristaY · Jul 25, 2017

Obsidian said:
I'd like to try HO sunflower but I can't find it local.

If you live near Trader Joe's they have HO Sunflower, $3.99 per liter. I've been using it for about a year and I love it. I use it with OO and avocado oil at 15% each.

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