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Old 04-21-2017, 01:14 PM   #11
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You can substitute rice bran oil for the olive oil. You can also substitute palm, tallow or lard for the olive oil. Make sure to run the recipe through a lye calculator. Here is a link with oil properties:
http://summerbeemeadow.com/content/p...oapmaking-oils


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Clay is the worse additive I've ever used in soap, it dries me out terrible, even in small amounts.
High OO is also hard on my skin, more then 30% makes my skin really tight.
I like a recipe high in lard or palm, lard being prefered.

Lard or palm 50%
Coconut 20%
Olive or avocado 25%
Castor 5%


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Clay is the worse additive I've ever used in soap, it dries me out terrible, even in small amounts.
High OO is also hard on my skin, more then 30% makes my skin really tight.
I like a recipe high in lard or palm, lard being prefered.

Lard or palm 50%
Coconut 20%
Olive or avocado 25%
Castor 5%
My favourite bar right now has bentonite clay in it! I was surprised that I love it so much. It's a very hard, smooth, creamy bar. I used 1 tsp PPO. I wouldn't go higher than that though. And I actually used a very similar recipe to the one you posted above.

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Thanks a lot for all helpful answers and tips. Using tallow or lard isn't an option because it's difficult to come by here in Norway (believe it or not).
I have Palm Oil and Palm Kernel - but been a bit skeptic to use those in combination with Coconut Oil since I've read it can be tough on the skin.
But then again..I thought Olive Oil should be very gentle
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Obsidian: Have you tried to substitute some Palm with Shea butter,and some Olive Oil with Rice Bran ?
If so at what amount?
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Thanks a lot for all helpful answers and tips. Using tallow or lard isn't an option because it's difficult to come by here in Norway (believe it or not).
I have Palm Oil and Palm Kernel - but been a bit skeptic to use those in combination with Coconut Oil since I've read it can be tough on the skin.
But then again..I thought Olive Oil should be very gentle

Palm oil is great if you don't want to use or can't get lard. Is your palm kernel a liquid or flakes! If it's the flakes it can be used in conjunction with CO by splitting the amount between them. They are both cleansing oils. Palm Oil isn't drying.
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Obsidian: Have you tried to substitute some Palm with Shea butter,and some Olive Oil with Rice Bran ?
If so at what amount?
I have a vegetarian recipe that uses 20% shea instead of palm or lard, its not too bad but has quite a lot of coconut to help counter the lather killing properties of shea.

I've only used rice bran a couple times, around 30%. I honestly don't know how it compares to OO as I didn't use that particular soap.

I used to use PKO in place of coconut and I liked it quite a lot. I only went to coconut because its so much easier for me to find.

If you want to try the recipe I posted earlier, use the palm in place of the lard and the PKO in place of the coconut. I don't really understand why so many people use PKO and coconut in the same recipe when PKO is just fine on its own.

Olive oil does make a gentle soap, it won't strip too much of your natural oils. The tightness some people experience with it isn't because its a harsh soap, something else it at play, I just don't know what.
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Palm oil is great if you don't want to use or can't get lard. Is your palm kernel a liquid or flakes! If it's the flakes it can be used in conjunction with CO by splitting the amount between them. They are both cleansing oils. Palm Oil isn't drying.
My Palm Kernel Oil is solid..a bit like 92 deg Coconut in texture.
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I'm odd. I have a few bars with clays and they aren't drying for me. I guess my skin likes clay.
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It looks like Norway wouldn't have hard water or a dry climate, so if those aren't an issue, I'd look into lowering the coconut oil percentage further. Increasing the superfat for such a soft recipe seems risky.
Norway does have a very dry climate. Hard water, I don't know. But in the winther, absolutely every single drop of water freezes, so the air is as dry as it can get. But that depends again on where in Norway you live. I guess the rainy western area are not so dry. But most parts of Norway is crisp dry in the winther, if it is cold degrees outside.

My hands gets so dry that they will bleed in the winther that I have to use a special cream to make them soft again (Kerodex71, the best I have tried). So we definately have a dry climate, but dry in another way that in the desert or hot areas. Like freeze dried.

My first soap was also drying to the skin, even if it is 100% olive oil and with a superfatting (I don't remember the %, but it was under 10). But I did some strange things since I did not have ingredients, so it can be a lot of factors. I did zap test both the soap and the lather, but I'm not sure how this zap is supposed to feel. I did not feel like battery licking. So what I suspect, is that a homemade soap is way stronger and more consentrated that store bought liquid soap. They do water it down a lot. But homemade is not watered down, so maybe that is the thing. It is stronger than we are used too. But I don't know. The next time I will use 15-20% superfat and some wax, to see if that helps.

I don't have dry skin at all, except from on my hands. They are notorius for drying out instantly. So now I can actually see a difference in dryness from the left hand to the right, where I hold the soap in the shower. More dry on the right hand. But, better luck next time.


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