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Old 08-27-2017, 07:06 PM   #11
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There are vegan FO available, nurture's for example. I use them for my husband since he likes citrus scents more than anything else. However for selling, I was wanting to kill 2 birds with 1 stone and use EO in the vegan since many vegans don't want FO period. I haven't used any expensive EO, lemongrass and anise so far, but looking at prices for future reference, many are much more costly than FO.
Interesting, I have never had a Vegan question FO's in the soap, and I have several vegan customers

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I thought about you a couple weeks ago as I drove up to Julian and passed by a camel dairy in the Ramona area! By chance, is this where you get your camel milk?
Nope, I have to purchase from a Health Food Store in Pasadena or on Amazon. The Dairy is not wualified to sell the milk only their Camel Milk products


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Old 08-28-2017, 12:55 PM   #12
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Interesting, I have never had a Vegan question FO's in the soap, and I have several vegan customers
I've also never had a vegan (or anyone else for that matter) question the scent aspect of my soaps.

Honestly the only time I get questioned about fragrances is in my candles, never in my soap.
The only questions about scent for my soaps I get is if I have certain scents, never if they are EO's.


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Ok. I have to ask. What in an FO makes it not suitable for vegans?
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Old 08-28-2017, 01:47 PM   #14
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Ok. I have to ask. What in an FO makes it not suitable for vegans?
Some scents are animal derived, such as musk, ambergris, civet. Any FO with these or components of these would not be ok for a vegan to use.

The odds of real ambergris being used in an FO are probably very slim since its very expensive. But since we don't know what is actually in the FO, I prefer to err on the safe side.
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But since we don't know what is actually in the FO, I prefer to err on the safe side.
The MSDS sheet will tell you what's in the FO.
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The MSDS sheet will tell you what's in the FO.
Actually most msds will not tell you, at least not in the US. Any Fo's that I have found the ingredients listed do not have natural musk.
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Actually most msds will not tell you, at least not in the US. Any Fo's that I have found the ingredients listed do not have natural musk.
Thank you for pointing that out. Honestly it's been quite a few years since I studied a MSDS sheet, so I assumed they would have that info. Guess that's what I get for assuming, because we all know what "ass u me" means. LOL
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Thank you for pointing that out. Honestly it's been quite a few years since I studied a MSDS sheet, so I assumed they would have that info. Guess that's what I get for assuming, because we all know what "ass u me" means. LOL
LOL, yep we know assume means I have seen a few that list ingredients but very few. But I really doubt very few synthetic fragrance manufactures use the very expensive natural musks.


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