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Old 12-28-2016, 04:46 PM   #1
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I am looking for some new fragrances to use in my lard based soap. I am still in trial and error phase with my soap making and am hesitant to spend much or buy large quantities. I have only used essential oils so far with fairly good results, but am hoping to branch out! (I have found that the high amounts of lard in the recipe requires a high concentration of fragrance to cover up the "fat" smell )

Has anyone tried the Hobby Lobby brands? Do you have a favorite supplier that sells small quantities?!

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Old 12-28-2016, 05:01 PM   #2
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Don't use Hobby Lobby fragrances (FOs) in CP (cold process) soap. They are meant for MP (melt and pour) and the lye will gobble them up!

I love Brambleberry, Nature's Garden Candles, Nurture Soap and Majestic Mountain Sage. They are soap people and test their fragrances in soap and report reliably about how they perform. I prefer to buy from companies who show pictures of how a fragrance or color performs in cold process soap.

Essential Oils - I really like Camden Grey


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I have had good luck with lemon grass EO. Sticks well and is pleasant.
A lot of the Hobby Lobby fragrances are intended for M&P soaps and will produce soap on a stick in CP. That was an interesting experience for me just before I found this forum.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/200513122010...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Is a link to my last purch se of lemon grass EO.

Also try not to over heat the lard when melting it. It only needs to be liquid since we are not cooking with it.
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I don't use high concentrations to cover any lard smell. Unless your lard is rendered at a high temp or heated to a high temp. it shouldn't smell much. Any odor in my cp soap has faded over time. I would not use Hobby Lobby fragrances as they are probably not good quality and may not be for cp soap. Try Natures Garden, they have 1 oz fragrances for $2.99. They also have a reward points program.
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Old 12-28-2016, 05:25 PM   #5
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I'll second nature's garden. They also have a discount on 10 samples.

Another I like a lot is nurture soap.

If you buy samples and don't like them, you are only out a little bit. I always get a sample to test and if the family likes it well enough, I'll order a larger size the next time. I've tried many many different ones and only use 4 or 5 regularly. Of course, I can't help but keep trying new ones.

Eta: Almost forgot... I use high lard in most of my recipes. Any slight piggy smell is gone by the end of cure. Just heat enough to melt as already mentioned.
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Is there a noticeable pork smell in the soap? Is it noticeable to others? I ask b/c some people are just very sensitive to particular smells - I know a lady who doesn't care for high olive oil soap b/c she can smell the olive oil and doesn't like it.

What kind of lard are you using?
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Don't buy a large amount of FO on someone else's recommendation. Scent is a highly personal thing, I have found.

Of course read all the reviews and listen to recommendations but try a small bottle first to see if YOU like it.

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I agree with all of the above. I'd also add Mad Oils to the list. If you can post what types of scents you like (or don't like), you might get a few recommendations, but as mentioned, scent is a personal thing. I would read reviews for any that you are considering, as they will often mention if the FO accelerates or causes any other issues. As a rule, florals, rain/ocean and some spices can be problematic.
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Regarding the lard odor: I have noticed some brands seem to have a much stronger and offensive-to-me odor. My nose is usually pretty sensitive, but I am also a vegetarian so anything meaty smells pretty strong to me anyway. It just is. Some people have a super strong sense of smell while others do not. There are so many variables when it comes to perceptions of odors/fragrance, including altered body chemistry (as many pregnant women or people on certain drugs can attest.)

People here told me that if I waited the lard odor would dissipate and I wouldn't even be able to smell it anymore after cure. Well, I don't find that to necessarily be the case. I can still smell the lard in a soap I made for my brother 6 months ago. I think lard soap is cured by 6 months, right? Anyway, that was unscented AND made with a brand of lard that I have since realized is one of the strongest smelling of any I have tried so far. I have read also that it could have been a 'bad' batch of lard, but I have bought that brand since and found it really does have a stronger odor. I've bought 3 different brands so far and that one remains the strongest. I have seen all 3 at WalMarts, not my local very-small store, but different ones across the country (USA). So I guess it depends on where you live which one is available to you. I wish I could remember which one it was, but I don't. All I know is it was a 1-pound container because I didn't want to risk buying more if it didn't turn out to be something I could tolerate doing. Well, and I know it was NOT the blue boxed (Morrell Snow Cap) one, because that is not available near me, and I didn't try it until months later while traveling.

I have since used fragrances to try and hide the odor, and it does seem to help a little bit, but I didn't even find that to be reliable. Sometimes fragrance doesn't hide an odor. What I think helps better is to avoid the brand I discovered I don't like the odor of in the first place.

The jury (me) is still out on using lard in soaps, because I am not yet convinced even though there are loads of soapers here who swear by using lard in their soaps. But I decided to give it a try for the sake of producing a soap that some of my family who don't really care about 'vegetarian-friendly' stuff would like. I can tell you that even among some of my family who are not vegetarian, some cannot abide the odor.
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Is there a noticeable pork smell in the soap? Is it noticeable to others? I ask b/c some people are just very sensitive to particular smells - I know a lady who doesn't care for high olive oil soap b/c she can smell the olive oil and doesn't like it.

What kind of lard are you using?
My family raises heritage pigs that eat and live much differently than those of your typical pork pig, lots of acreage to wander about and play. The pork tastes different than store bough due to their happy life style and I am a bit worried the lard may be affected too. We get the lard rendered by the local butcher then back in jars.

I tried hot process this afternoon and brambleberry's fragrance calculator with peppermint EO, keeping my fingers crossed.

I really appreciate everyone's responses, I will be spending the rest of the evening checking out all the websites!!


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