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Old 06-23-2016, 06:12 PM   #1
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Default Would like a recipe for a simple Castile-like soap that cures fast

Title says it all. Im into very simple things, and I would like the simplest soap that doesnt need more than 46 weeks of curing. Do anyone have a recipe to share?

No animal oils, no colors, no fragrances maybe with the exception of a dash of EO.

I only do CP. Would be helpful with lye concentration, and anything related to temperature that I should be aware of.

What are my options?


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Welcome Alexanderte! The best suggestion I have is to make a 100% olive oil soap with a 45% lye solution (1 part lye to 1.2 parts water).

Or if you want more bubbles from your lather, you could make an 80% olive oil/20% coconut oil soap made with the same amount of water (45% lye solution).

If using an essential oil, I would add no more than 3% EO per pound of soaping oils.


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Old 06-23-2016, 07:13 PM   #3
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Thanks, IrishLass!

But if I make another Castile with 45% lye concentration it still need to cure for 12 years, no?

Ive heard that coconut oil as part of the recipe will make it cure faster, and I will most likely use that as part of my next soap.
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Any recipe made with large % of oils that are liquid at room temp will need a longer cure. Try something like:

40% Palm
15% coconut
30% olive
10% shea or cocoa
5% castor

The palm and the butters add stearic and palmic fatty acids. The coconut adds the lauric fatty acid that crates bubbles. Castor has ricinoleic that helps keep the bubbles around longer.

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Ditto what Kchaystack said about soaps made with lots of liquid oils benefitting greatly from longer cures, but lengths of cure anywhere beyond the 4 to 6 weeks minimum will vary from person to person depending upon what they choose as being fine for them to live with. For example, one of my several versions of Castile-type soaps that I make (using 80% olive oil, 10% coconut oil and 10% castor) made with a 40% lye concentration, is great for me with only a 6 week cure.


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Thanks for the recipes!

Not intending to be nitpicky, but Im a bit concerned about palm oil from the environmental perspective. I see that it is used in a few recipes in a book about soap that I bought as well.

Anyone got any thoughts regarding that? Is there an oil that I could use as substitute?
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Welcome! Thanks for joining us. Have you considered developing your own formulas for soap? There are many soap calculators available. One is http://soapcalc.net/default.asp
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The only other alternative is to use a high percentage of butters (Shea/Cocoa) however you will also sacrifice in the lather with them. I agree with formulating your own recipes using a soap calculator. Especially since you are opposed to Palm, Lard and want something that doesn't require a long cure. You could also do 100% CO with a high SF.
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For bath soaps I make non Animal Oils and non Palm oils soaps using olive, coconut, shea and/or cocoa butters and a tiny bit of castor oils; in that order.

Play around with the percentages of each using a soap calculator (I use soapcalc.net) until you get % for each oil for the soap properties you like.

I would be glad to give you my specific % but I use a lot more coconut oil than most other members here like. I have dry skin and my soaps are not drying to me at all, but a lot of people here keep coconut oil at less than 30 or even 20%. It all depends on what your skin likes, and how cleansing you need your soap to be. I do really dirty work so I need my soaps to be cleansing.

Just wanted to add that olive oil is somewhat interchangeable with almond and also avocado oils. Choose the one(s) that are better priced where you are. Also, shea and cocoa butters are similarly somewhat interchangeable in soaps, while they do have different properties when used in lotions or balms.
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Thanks for the recipes!

Not intending to be nitpicky, but Im a bit concerned about palm oil from the environmental perspective. I see that it is used in a few recipes in a book about soap that I bought as well.

Anyone got any thoughts regarding that? Is there an oil that I could use as substitute?
Alexander, I answered your pm, it got a bit long, sorry. I just noticed this before I am going night-night:

There are some subs for palm oil and I use a lot of them as I don`t use palm oil either:

The Coconut oil we already have discussed, remember the one with 15-20% Superfat.
I think I also mentioned I used Sheabutter and Cocoabutter? Those are also great in soaps, but not too much as they can inhibit lather. I use it between 5 and 8% in my recipes, 10% at the most in one specific soaprecipe for my friend.
Also I think Babassu is possible, but that oil is not so easy to get for us in Norway, you probably have to check some internet vendors. I just didn`t want the hassle of expensive shipping and customs, so I skipped that one.

You don`t want lard, but I love lard myself, the soaps gets particularly creamy and gentle. Since that is out, the above oils I mentioned are the ones I use in adition to the other ones I mentioned to you, like Almond, Avocado, Olive, Castor, Lard.

Oh I forgot, I also use between 2-3% beeswax in several of my soaps. Makes them hard, durable and less prone to ash!


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