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Old 11-12-2017, 09:14 PM   #1
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I am looking for a lip safe preservative for a lip product that is 50% water. (If you are not participating in the secret santa you can pm me for the full recipe - and feel safe, knowing you won't be my guinea pig )
The recipe I am following recommends liquid germall plus - this is the preservative I have settled on for my first lotions, so that would be convenient! The reason I don't want to use it for the lip product is because lotioncrafter lists this as being restricted by the EU for lipcare (and, um, lotions... how did I just notice that?) Their other preservatives don't list this restriction, but I want it spelled out for me: "This product is lip safe!"

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Old 11-14-2017, 06:02 AM   #2
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Hiya Millie! I can't help but wonder what you're up to??? In any case, I believe your only choice is Phenonip.

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http://swiftcraftymonkey.blogspot.co...-phenonip.html
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Phenonip is a broad spectrum liquid preservative for yeast, fungi and bacteria which is approved as safe for use in the EU and Japan. It is odorless and colorless and has a low irritancy history. It is made up of the following components:

phenoxyethanol (CAS # 122-99-6)
methylparaben (CAS # 99-76-3)
butylparaben (CAS # 94-26-
ethylparaben (CAS # 120-47-
propylparaben (CAS # 94-13-3)

Standard usage rate is 0.25% to 1.0%. Phenonip is not required in bar soap, salves, bath bombs or bath salts. In liquid soap or in clays use at a rate of 0.1% to 0.5%, in creams and lotions use at a rate of 0.1% to 0.4%, in body mists use at a rate of 0.1% to 0.2%. This preservative may be used at higher heat levels without losing effectiveness and is highly recommended for salt scrubs and oil-based products, although it will also perform in water-based products. It’s effective in a pH range of 3-8. Soluble in both oil and water, heat water to 139 to 157 F to properly dissolve Phenonip.
ETA: There's some controversy over parabens, whether or not they cause cancer. I don't have a problem using parabens, they really are effective long term with a long shelf life. However, savvy customers in general tend to avoid products that contain them, so I don't use Phenonip. I should also mention, the one time I did use it, I found it irritating. But that's just me. I have dry, sensitive, mature skin.


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Thanks for your feedback! I'll post the recipe and my modifications (if they work) after secret santa. Don't worry dear recipient, I'll have warnings all over any new-to-me products
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Hee hee... same source; different posts! While we're at it, might as well add Susan's page on Preservatives in general:

http://swiftcraftymonkey.blogspot.co...ervatives.html


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